(December 11, 2019 at 1:58 pm)LastPoet Wrote: I usually hold basic human respect for anyone I meet. Either that person earns greater respect or loses that basic respect. If someone has a religion and in Portugal its quite tame (some ponctual exceptions), i won't lose respect as a fellow human being. I offer respect, it's up for other people to lose or gain. I expect they do the same for me.then you are a better optimist than mean. I think it is human nature to classify things as quickly as possible. Therefore you're being sorted and classified as soon as you enter their brain. That's why we form preconceptions about people when we listen to gossip. I don't think the vast majority of people put a whole lot of thought at this level and prefer to form preconceptions instinctively. I believe intrinsic respect isn't beneficial to current societal survival instinct, and therefore is rarely given. If we were baboons fighting over bannanas then the respect afforded the biggest baboon would be far more "instinctually real". Kudos to you.
@EgoDeath I would lie to someone I respect or someone I don't respect. I'm saying respect is not a factor in why I would lie. I would lie because there's a purpose to the lie, not because of the person's place in some societal hierarchy. I might feel more guilt upon lying to someone I respected over someone I didn't respect, but that plays into the cognitive dissonance of telling the lie in the first place and is assumed in the cost of lying.
@Gae Bolga no need to bet, we do. I was just exploring your great wealth of your philosophical understanding, as it far surpasses mine. Why is it that our shared opinion that equality of outcome is not a good thing a surprise? I thought we discussed this previously. I don't think either of us actually prefer equanimity of outcome to equanimity of opportunity. No one wants a world of plain jane automatons when they really think about it. But equality of outcome would be better than total anarchy and is better than what we have now. This is why when, we're jerking the philosophical gerkin, the idealist principles we would prefer align more. You and I may not agree on the methods to achieve those goals, but we can agree on the goals I think.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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