@EgoDeath I wasn't conflating anything. You clearly see a major aspect of respect being power. No where did I mention power. I was simply answering a questioning of my character. I don't equate respect with power or truth was my entire point.
@Gae Bolga I'm not certain that equality is a uniform good. I believe we are all built/raised/trained differently for good reason and value shouldn't be placed on an individual's circumstance. I believe I would respect a racist as much as I would respect a non-racist, until such time as their deeds proved the position of their labeling. Equality of outcome or opportunity both imply that it either is achievable. We've seen that equality of opportunity increase diversity of outcome. We have seen, small scale, that equality of outcome without inclusiveness creates more awareness of diversity in opportunity.
I believe your argument is faulty in the tacit implications of equality of opportunity. It doesn't imply that equal acts generate equal outcomes. It supposes that equal opportunities are achievable by extremely unequal acts. I could imply that the "end point" for equality of outcome is some sort of quota for everyone to be. I believe the true measure though for things like happiness, healthy, moral, etc. are so individual specific that it's more like "I want equality for everyone so everyone can end up as happy as they could possibly be in the long run". as opposed to "Everyone should have an opportunity to be as happy as possible in the long run". I could restate that to "I want equality for those deemed worthy, so they can end up as happy as they could possibly be in the long run" if that is more palatable. I think I do believe the last, and try and live that way, and hope that all would be found worthy of the opportunity for their best selves. The realist in me though, does agree with your usually pessimist prerogative that not everyone is worth of respect, equality or opportunity.
@Gae Bolga I'm not certain that equality is a uniform good. I believe we are all built/raised/trained differently for good reason and value shouldn't be placed on an individual's circumstance. I believe I would respect a racist as much as I would respect a non-racist, until such time as their deeds proved the position of their labeling. Equality of outcome or opportunity both imply that it either is achievable. We've seen that equality of opportunity increase diversity of outcome. We have seen, small scale, that equality of outcome without inclusiveness creates more awareness of diversity in opportunity.
I believe your argument is faulty in the tacit implications of equality of opportunity. It doesn't imply that equal acts generate equal outcomes. It supposes that equal opportunities are achievable by extremely unequal acts. I could imply that the "end point" for equality of outcome is some sort of quota for everyone to be. I believe the true measure though for things like happiness, healthy, moral, etc. are so individual specific that it's more like "I want equality for everyone so everyone can end up as happy as they could possibly be in the long run". as opposed to "Everyone should have an opportunity to be as happy as possible in the long run". I could restate that to "I want equality for those deemed worthy, so they can end up as happy as they could possibly be in the long run" if that is more palatable. I think I do believe the last, and try and live that way, and hope that all would be found worthy of the opportunity for their best selves. The realist in me though, does agree with your usually pessimist prerogative that not everyone is worth of respect, equality or opportunity.
"There ought to be a term that would designate those who actually follow the teachings of Jesus, since the word 'Christian' has been largely divorced from those teachings, and so polluted by fundamentalists that it has come to connote their polar opposite: intolerance, vindictive hatred, and bigotry." -- Philip Stater, Huffington Post
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