(December 16, 2019 at 4:16 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:I prefer news to theologian "scholars".(December 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Is this the "fake news" approach? Weak sauce.
What's your point exactly?
It appears though that news is your only source of knowledge.
The point is that the majority of muslims believe death is the correct punishment for apostasy, according to the Quran. A fact you conveniently deny.
(December 16, 2019 at 4:16 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:You think scholars know better what the majority of muslims believe than statistics and polls? Oh well...(December 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Scholars know better than statistics and polls?
The hell they do.
(December 16, 2019 at 4:16 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:...and who gave them their certificate of being *correct*? Other scholars? And those got theirs from...?(December 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Where do scholars derive their authority from?
From dozens of years studying Islamic jurisprudence, Islamic law, tafsir', Hadith studies, Quranic studies, advanced arabic grammar, and more.
(December 16, 2019 at 4:16 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:Weird, he saz the same about you. So who is correct and why? A question both of you cant answer.(December 16, 2019 at 3:46 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Yet both of you claim to be muslims, yet both of you claim to have *the truth* and the other being wrong.
So, who is right? You? Atlass? Your scholars? Atlass´scholars? Why?
You better work this out, and then come back at me, you know where to find me.
In the meantime i will continue not to kill people simply for their beliefs, based on my own moral standards, and not because some *scholar* tells me a book says so, you are damn right.
I don't want to disrespect Atlas but he's really really not well versed in his stuff,
(December 16, 2019 at 4:16 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: I already asked him a clear question he couldn't address concerning his repugnance of Hadiths.I am not interested in what fantasies you prefer. Its like: "Whats better: Start Trek or Star Wars?".
(December 16, 2019 at 4:16 pm)Klorophyll Wrote: Until we work this out, just look up what our scholars say about "killing people".Which scholars? Those who agree with you or those who agree with Atlass? Those who advocate killing apostates or those who dont?
No thanks, i prefer to think for myself.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse