RE: Chemical evolution of amino acids and proteins ? Impossible !!
December 22, 2019 at 3:15 am
(This post was last modified: December 22, 2019 at 3:49 am by Deesse23.)
(December 21, 2019 at 7:41 pm)Otangelo Wrote: The fact to be explained is why the universe is life-permitting rather than life-prohibiting. That is to say, scientists have been surprised to discover that in order for embodied, interactive life to evolve anywhere at all in the universe, the fundamental constants and quantities of nature have to be fine-tuned to an incomprehensible precision. Were even one of these constants or quantities to be slightly altered, the universe would not permit the existence of embodied, interactive life anywhere in the cosmos. These finely-tuned conditions are necessary conditions of life in a universe governed by the present laws of nature. it would be obtuse to think that the universe is not life-permitting because regions of the universe are not life-permitting!....says the puddle of water sitting comfortably in the small pond that seems to fit him exactly.
Pro tip: there may be gazillions of other universes in the cosmos, and they all have constants of nature that dont allow them to even form baryonic mass at all.
And now the kicker: And one of them may harbor life too, completely different to what you and i know, but life still.
Why the dishonesty to argue for what you dont believe, why the dishonesty to not argue for what you believe in, the christian god? Why arent you providing data that conclusively shows your god at work instead of making up reasons why its not something else? what are you doing in an atheist forum at all? Take your data and visit some scien...oh, you have already been laughed out of town by them? Too bad for you.
(December 21, 2019 at 7:41 pm)Otangelo Wrote:You fail again. Spectacularly. I said "other than founded in your lack of imagination or abundance of ignorance"(December 21, 2019 at 5:45 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Do you always respond to questions with deflections?
Show the data that points towards intelligence as a source for life, data other than founded in your lack of imagination or abundance of ignorance.
Do you have any original thoughts or do you often copy pasta walls of text to impress the (other) gullible?
Chance of intelligence to set up life:
100% We KNOW by repeated experience that intelligence does elaborate blueprints and constructs complex factories and machines with specific purposes.
Life (we) creates machines. But life (we) has not managed yet to create life. Life self replicating is not life creating life. Nice try at equivocation though.
Otoh we have guiding forces of nature that may have created life some billions of years ago, as the paleontologic data availiable suggests.
(December 21, 2019 at 7:41 pm)Otangelo Wrote: Chance of unguided random natural events doing it:Unguided natural events? Didnt you just argue that the guiding forces of nature have to be set up so precisely as to allow the formation of life? That without exactly those forces life wouldnt be possible? What is random about a body of great mass always attractig more mass and lack of mass not attracting any mass? Does Mass clump up randomly or not?
(December 21, 2019 at 7:41 pm)Otangelo Wrote: Chance of random chemical reactions...
Chemical reactions, like gravity, are not random. They are guided by the forces of nature. Fuel does not *randomly* ignite in the combustion chambers of the engine of your car (at least i hope so, for your sake!. Special conditions have to be met.
We are not in a casino, this is nature, dude.
(December 21, 2019 at 7:49 pm)SUNGULA Wrote: 1.No your re just framing the question in a way that suits your apologist script without actually addressing the point .Then repeating the same fallacies again.Then just linking some apologist websites as if they have answered he question any better then you have (which is not at all)
In other words: preaching
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse