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Search for Causes
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RE: Search for Causes
(December 30, 2019 at 10:54 pm)Lek Wrote: If I had an experience which I sincerely believed was God talking directly to me, how would I be able to prove or disprove what I believe?

You can't and that (for the atheist) continues to be the problem. We have many people believing many different things about different god's all without being able to produce any evidence.

Quote:If I had advanced stage cancer and it suddenly disappeared or went into remission, how could it be proven to be from natural, rather than supernatural causes?

If you claimed it was anything other than the natural world, then you have the same problem, we know that remission happens, and we know from studies about prayer that it has no effect, so why even consider a supernatural option, when even the word 'supernatural' puts us in a world we cannot prove, explore, or do anything with really ?

Quote:If natural science was unable to determine the cause,  what method could I use to determine if the origin or cause of these was supernatural?  Should I pursue other avenues or rely on science to eventually come up with an answer?

You should say 'science was unable to determine the cause, so my conclusion is that I don't know'
Its much better than making stuff up, really it is.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'
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Search for Causes - by Lek - December 30, 2019 at 10:54 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - December 30, 2019 at 11:01 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Chad32 - December 30, 2019 at 11:04 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by arewethereyet - December 30, 2019 at 11:28 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - December 30, 2019 at 11:32 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by arewethereyet - December 31, 2019 at 4:14 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - December 31, 2019 at 5:00 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by arewethereyet - December 31, 2019 at 6:38 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by brewer - December 30, 2019 at 11:39 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - December 30, 2019 at 11:45 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - December 31, 2019 at 1:46 am
RE: Search for Causes - by downbeatplumb - December 31, 2019 at 6:00 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Mr.wizard - December 31, 2019 at 7:46 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - December 31, 2019 at 1:07 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Fake Messiah - December 31, 2019 at 2:21 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2019 at 5:13 am
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - December 31, 2019 at 9:25 am
RE: Search for Causes - by LastPoet - December 31, 2019 at 9:31 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Mister Agenda - December 31, 2019 at 10:39 am
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - December 31, 2019 at 1:15 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Duty - December 31, 2019 at 1:26 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - December 31, 2019 at 3:23 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Abaddon_ire - December 31, 2019 at 4:22 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - December 31, 2019 at 5:11 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LastPoet - December 31, 2019 at 7:10 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - December 31, 2019 at 4:39 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - December 31, 2019 at 8:01 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Abaddon_ire - December 31, 2019 at 8:33 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - December 31, 2019 at 8:54 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by mordant - December 31, 2019 at 10:25 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 1, 2020 at 11:55 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 2, 2020 at 12:01 am
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 2, 2020 at 6:01 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 12:35 am
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 2, 2020 at 1:14 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 1:48 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - January 2, 2020 at 2:00 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 2, 2020 at 3:36 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 5:14 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 2, 2020 at 11:02 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 12:07 am
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2020 at 12:36 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Mr.wizard - January 2, 2020 at 8:36 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Valkyrie - January 2, 2020 at 12:46 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 12:49 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Peebo-Thuhlu - January 2, 2020 at 1:01 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - January 2, 2020 at 1:12 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 1:12 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 5:30 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - January 2, 2020 at 6:14 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 2:10 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - January 2, 2020 at 3:15 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 5:18 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - January 3, 2020 at 2:33 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 8:59 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Brian37 - January 2, 2020 at 9:51 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 2:17 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 2:21 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 2:24 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 2:38 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 2:41 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 2, 2020 at 5:18 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 5:20 pm
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RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 2, 2020 at 5:25 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 5:30 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Mr.wizard - January 2, 2020 at 5:44 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 2, 2020 at 5:30 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 5:37 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 5:38 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 2, 2020 at 5:43 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 5:48 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 2, 2020 at 5:51 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 6:20 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 6:45 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 2, 2020 at 8:26 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Simon Moon - January 3, 2020 at 12:23 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 4:52 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 3, 2020 at 7:00 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Simon Moon - January 4, 2020 at 2:18 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Ranjr - January 2, 2020 at 6:40 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 6:50 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 2, 2020 at 6:53 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 2, 2020 at 8:49 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 2, 2020 at 8:56 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 2, 2020 at 10:50 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Simon Moon - January 2, 2020 at 11:25 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - January 3, 2020 at 12:33 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 12:58 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - January 3, 2020 at 1:05 am
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 3, 2020 at 12:47 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 12:58 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 1:02 am
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 3, 2020 at 1:02 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 1:12 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 1:48 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Fake Messiah - January 3, 2020 at 2:03 am
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 3, 2020 at 12:07 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 3:28 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 12:27 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Aegon - January 3, 2020 at 12:57 pm
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RE: Search for Causes - by Aegon - January 3, 2020 at 6:34 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Mister Agenda - January 3, 2020 at 1:01 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 1:16 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 3, 2020 at 2:34 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Fake Messiah - January 4, 2020 at 2:57 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Mister Agenda - January 3, 2020 at 1:18 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 3, 2020 at 1:26 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - January 3, 2020 at 1:49 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 1:55 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 4:58 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 6:47 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - January 3, 2020 at 6:54 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 6:51 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 6:59 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 7:22 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LastPoet - January 4, 2020 at 7:50 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 8:03 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 8:15 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 8:22 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 3, 2020 at 9:10 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 3, 2020 at 9:34 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 3, 2020 at 9:39 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 4, 2020 at 1:41 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2020 at 3:08 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2020 at 11:07 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 5, 2020 at 7:54 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 5, 2020 at 8:18 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 5, 2020 at 9:15 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Mr.wizard - January 6, 2020 at 6:25 am
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 6, 2020 at 9:30 am
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 7, 2020 at 1:32 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2020 at 8:21 am
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 4, 2020 at 2:22 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by arewethereyet - January 4, 2020 at 2:49 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2020 at 3:03 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 4, 2020 at 3:09 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2020 at 3:29 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 4, 2020 at 10:07 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 4, 2020 at 10:31 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 4, 2020 at 10:59 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 4, 2020 at 11:53 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 4, 2020 at 10:40 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LastPoet - January 4, 2020 at 10:49 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 4, 2020 at 11:03 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 4, 2020 at 11:12 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 4, 2020 at 11:31 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - January 5, 2020 at 3:39 am
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 5, 2020 at 11:36 am
RE: Search for Causes - by LastPoet - January 5, 2020 at 12:25 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 5, 2020 at 12:42 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LastPoet - January 5, 2020 at 1:23 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 5, 2020 at 4:01 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 5, 2020 at 8:18 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 5, 2020 at 8:59 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 5, 2020 at 9:14 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - January 5, 2020 at 10:27 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 5, 2020 at 11:02 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Architect Of Fate - January 6, 2020 at 12:11 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 6, 2020 at 1:40 am
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 5, 2020 at 11:32 pm
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RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2020 at 9:08 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 7, 2020 at 1:34 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Simon Moon - January 7, 2020 at 2:06 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Mister Agenda - January 7, 2020 at 12:52 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 7, 2020 at 1:39 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 7, 2020 at 2:37 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 7, 2020 at 7:13 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Ranjr - January 7, 2020 at 9:06 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 7, 2020 at 10:24 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Simon Moon - January 8, 2020 at 6:44 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 7, 2020 at 7:36 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 7, 2020 at 7:59 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by possibletarian - January 8, 2020 at 12:34 am
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 7, 2020 at 8:26 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 7, 2020 at 9:22 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 7, 2020 at 9:32 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Abaddon_ire - January 7, 2020 at 10:25 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - January 8, 2020 at 3:08 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Peebo-Thuhlu - January 8, 2020 at 4:22 am
RE: Search for Causes - by Deesse23 - January 8, 2020 at 7:32 am
RE: Search for Causes - by The Grand Nudger - January 8, 2020 at 6:24 am
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RE: Search for Causes - by Lek - January 8, 2020 at 1:21 pm
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RE: Search for Causes - by Ranjr - January 8, 2020 at 2:00 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by LadyForCamus - January 8, 2020 at 2:20 pm
RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 8, 2020 at 3:49 pm
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RE: Search for Causes - by no one - January 8, 2020 at 5:55 pm
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RE: Search for Causes - by Rahn127 - January 9, 2020 at 2:02 pm
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