(January 2, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Lek Wrote:What is not the case?(January 2, 2020 at 6:14 am)Deesse23 Wrote: If your method is *prayer* then its utterly ineffective. Think of all those people who pray to the *wrong* (aka not yours) god. If your god exists, THEIR prayer is useless. If THEIR god exists, your prayer is useless. Ergo: Prayer as a method is useless to find out who is praying to the *right* god.
How can prayer be an effective method to figure out truth anyway? It literally is wishful thinking, aka "please, god, make my wishes come true.....if you like". Prayer is not about finding out what is true, but about maing your wishes come true, and you have yourself admitted to it.
Think about it........but you wont.
This is not the case.
I asked how you know that prayer is a reliable method to figure out which god exists.
If prayer is your method to find out if god is true, and if prayer is everyone elses method too, then one of you must be wrong, since many people are praying to mutually exclusive gods.
(January 2, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Lek Wrote: There is only one God who, or which, is indescribable in human concepts.How do you know its your god that listens to your prayers? Other people pray to other gods, which can not be your god.
(January 2, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Lek Wrote: People of various faiths have come to know that God exists through his enlightening and from there different concepts have arisen in various cultures. Christians, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists, Native Americans, etc all worship the same God...No they dont.
Christians have a trinity. Muslims one one god. Hindus have many gods.
Christians´god gives you only one life (and an afterlife). In Hinduism you have reincarantion.
You all do NOT believe in the same god and assorted aupernatural concepts.
Please stop pretending so. Its intellectually lazy and dishonest.
So when a hindu prays and when you pray. At least one of you prays to a god that does not exist. Ergo: Prayer is no reliable method to find the truth.
Additional question: Are you applying prayer to ANYthing else in your life in order to find the truth about something?
(January 2, 2020 at 2:10 pm)Lek Wrote:You said:(January 2, 2020 at 2:00 pm)Deesse23 Wrote: Does he speak to you?
I'd say he enlightens me in numerous ways.
(January 2, 2020 at 1:48 pm)Lek Wrote: "My method is prayer and listening to God along with studying and considering alternatives."Is he talking to you? What do you mean by "listening" otherwise.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse
