RE: Search for Causes
January 2, 2020 at 8:26 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2020 at 8:45 pm by possibletarian.)
(January 2, 2020 at 6:45 pm)Lek Wrote:(January 2, 2020 at 6:20 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: I'd say yes. We all have intuitions. These things aren't knowledge, obviously, and we all know that. Even the moist sainted christian believer will still..at least, experience what's been referred to as the long dark night of the soul. The state of wanting to concede to our intuition, needing to..even, but being unable to do so.
Lek, as an example, knows that he doesn't talk to god. He knows that god doesn't talk to him. Not in english, not at all. In fact, he personally knows that despite, in spite, or regardless of his beliefs, god is frustratingly silent. This silence and ambiguity positively compels us.
All of us.
Well, I have had "dark nights of the soul" and I have considered atheism. Honestly, I would have to forcefully cast off what I believe to be true in order to become one. I also see atheism as too limiting. I prefer to be open to all possibilities, which has allowed me to experience God more fully.
I've had what i considered 'Dark nights of the soul' too, most religions say they have similar experiences, hell even as an atheist i have had them, they are not proof of anything.
If by atheism being too limiting you mean you can no longer indulge in free for all fantasy's about all powerful gods making everything good in the end, then you are right atheism (lack of belief in all that) does take that away from you.
(January 2, 2020 at 5:30 pm)Lek Wrote: If I'm hungry and see an apple hanging on a tree and I see other people picking and eating the apples and walking away fine, I'll go pick an apple and eat it. I do this because I truly believe that those are really apples hanging on the tree and it's been reinforced by others eating them and being okay. I'm not going to say that there may really not be an apple tree there because sometimes people think they see and touch something, but it's not real, but a hallucination. Then I'm not going to walk away because it might not be real, even though I really believe that it is real.
Try that with an invisible, immaterial tree. that reveals its 'appleyness' to human hearts. Your example is an best silly, at worse dishonest.
'Those who ask a lot of questions may seem stupid, but those who don't ask questions stay stupid'