RE: Search for Causes
January 2, 2020 at 11:25 pm
(This post was last modified: January 2, 2020 at 11:33 pm by Simon Moon.)
(December 30, 2019 at 10:54 pm)Lek Wrote: If I had an experience which I sincerely believed was God talking directly to me, how would I be able to prove or disprove what I believe?
Personal revelation is by definition, unprovable, and first person.To everyone else they are hearsay. But there are so many natural explanations, that are much more likely as explanations.
You can't rationally even consider a god to be candidate explanation, without demonstrating that a god is even possible as an explanation.
Quote:If I had advanced stage cancer and it suddenly disappeared or went into remission, how could it be proven to be from natural, rather than supernatural causes?
Again, the supernatural has be proven to be a candidate explanation. How would you even begin to demonstrate that all possible natural explanations have been eliminated before even considering the supernatural?
Not to mention, when medical scientists test cancer cures on rats, a certain small percentage of the control group will, for unknown reasons will go into remission, without any treatments. Is the rat god curing these rats?
Quote:If natural science was unable to determine the cause, what method could I use to determine if the origin or cause of these was supernatural? Should I pursue other avenues or rely on science to eventually come up with an answer?
Argument from ignorance fallacy.
Just because your remission might be currently unexplained, dies not in any way, give more credence to a supernatural explanation.
Gods or the supernatural don't win by default as explanations for anything, just because a natural explanation is unknown.
In the history of human history, anytime an actual explanation has been found for something previously though to have a supernatural explanation, the actual explanation has always been natural.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
