RE: The hijab (etc) is immodest
January 23, 2020 at 10:00 pm
(This post was last modified: January 23, 2020 at 10:01 pm by Belacqua.)
(January 23, 2020 at 8:32 pm)Sal Wrote: There is something sinister about a woman being forced to wear the hijab, and especially the niqab, obviously.
I find it ironic that islamic women talk about being a preference - in western countries, where Islam is the minority - while women are chastised for removing them in Islamic dominated countries. Don't they see the contradiction here?
If the society you live in considers something to be immodest, then people in that society will chastise you for doing it.
In the US, for example, a woman who decided to go naked from the waist down at the supermarket would be chastised.
In Japan before Western influence, women showed their breasts fairly casually, compared to the USA today. You can see from Edo period porn that breasts weren't considered all that sexy. Sexy kimono flattened the bust and showed no cleavage, but the back of the neck was an erogenous zone, and a woman who let the collar of her kimono gape open three inches at the back would be stared at by horny men. Your dad wouldn't let you leave the house dressed like that.
In an earlier age, Tamakazura would never dare to show her teeth to a man she wasn't sleeping with. If you got on the same side of the folding screen as Lady Kokiden and saw her full face, even if she were fully clothed, it would be a clear indication that you can have sex with her.
Women at the time considered all this normal, because it is how people in their place and time drew the boundaries.