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Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity
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RE: Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity
(February 7, 2020 at 7:26 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:
(February 7, 2020 at 6:27 am)Fake Messiah Wrote: I think you answered it yourself.

And indeed, that's why we still have prominent Christian voices blaming gays, atheists, non-Christians on earthquakes, floods, fires, and whatnot.

I think most people would understand the verses to be saying two things. The first is don't think calamities fall on people because they're sinners (and that none have fallen on you because you're a saint). The second is to not assume that because this is the case that sin will go unpunished, so repent. In short, bad things happen to good people, and that's not an excuse to be bad.

(February 7, 2020 at 12:28 pm)Ranjr Wrote:
(February 7, 2020 at 10:51 am)ColdComfort Wrote: 5 The LORD saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.
6 And the LORD was sorry that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him to his heart.
7 So the LORD said, "I will blot out man whom I have created from the face of the ground ..."  RSV

But you say " not because of sin". Now you could have looked this up yourself and easily discovered you are wrong.. Why would someone not bother to do that? Would I be far off in suggesting that getting your facts right is far less important then sending yet another smug and sarcastic post? Makes you feel good about yourself doesn't it.?

Thanks for making my point.  With a smug scolding no less.  Well done.

Sorry. But you don't have a point. Not in this post anyway. You said God flooded the world for fun and not for the sins of humanity. That is wrong. Plain and simply wrong. 

Remember when god made that perfect place on earth for the first two people?  That was ossum.  He gave them a choice to see if they were worthy, as if he didn't already know what choice they would make.  It's like giving an 8 year old a wiffle bat and saying, "now don't hit your brother with this."
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RE: Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity - by ColdComfort - February 7, 2020 at 12:42 pm

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