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Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity
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RE: Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity
(February 8, 2020 at 3:40 pm)ColdComfort Wrote:
(February 8, 2020 at 10:32 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I think it's generally good to view most brain injuries and diseases, even those stemming from genetic or behaviors such as drug use, as either hijacking, exploiting, or limiting what the brain does naturally. Perhaps I'm wrong, but I don't know any disorder that adds a behavior that isn't already possible in a healthy brain. Drugs and diseases are using the same colors to make a different painting.

Everything that's good can be used for evil. Your immune system fights off pathogens, but if it no longer recognizes your native cells you get an autoimmune disorder. The same hands that can be used for building houses can be used for breaking necks. Evil can always be possible because things that are designed for good can always be misplaced.

Perhaps the only way to design an organism incapable of evil is to create an organism that has no autonomy, no behaviors, and no functions.

Okay. You may have a point. Nevertheless eliminating the type of male desire (it's always a man)  to torture women for sexual pleasure does not seem to involve any logical contradiction and thus God could have done it without interfering with that individuals free will.
Because women have no sexual desire at all? Ever? Of any sort? Boy have you led a sheltered life.

(February 8, 2020 at 3:40 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: I'm not that interested in the whole issue because God is under no compulsion or obligation to create the best of all possible worlds.
So he could have created the best possible universe, but chose intentionally not to do so?

(February 8, 2020 at 3:40 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: I don't think he did but there is no conclusion about the nature or existence of God to be drawn from that.
Wrong. One can conclude from that that god intentionally inflicted suffering because he merely felt like doing so and is thus a sadist.

(February 8, 2020 at 3:40 pm)ColdComfort Wrote: This whole debate seems the purview of Deists. As you already pointed out once the philosophical debate doesn't fit hand in glove with Revelation where after all we have the Fall, Original Sin and Jesus , in His human nature, being brutally and unjustly executed.
Nope. Inconvenienced for a weekend at best. Not much of a sacrifice, is it?

Besides, "original sin" is an idea that is insidious and scurrilous at best. It has some unfortunate consequences. Child murder being one obvious one.
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RE: Plantinga's "Free Will" defense contradicts Christianity - by Abaddon_ire - February 8, 2020 at 6:41 pm

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