RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 10, 2020 at 11:40 am
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2020 at 11:43 am by Abaddon_ire.)
(February 9, 2020 at 7:36 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: I made consciousness a prerequisite for conscience, not interchanged the two. You can define conscience in any way you want (the feeling of right and wrong, a voice in your head, etc.), and as long as it is a conscious experience you cannot know if an animal has it.
As a sane person, I don't hear "voices in my head".
And if we could not determine if an animal was experiencing "consciousness" or "conscience", then we can't determine if a human is either.
You really don't think this crap through, do you. That was not a question.
(February 10, 2020 at 11:07 am)John 6IX Breezy Wrote: Great, I'm fine with just saying you have a feeling that animals have a conscience.
Random P.S:
The illusion, as you called it, is important because the deck is stacked against us. Your brain is designed to see intentions and mental states in others, not through logical deduction, but through projection. Mirror neurons are at the center of this, bridging the gap between the sensory and motor systems. You understand the behaviors of others by embodying the perception, and running a simulation of it as if you were the one doing it. This means that your inferences of other minds is entirely biased with your own. This is also perhaps why it's easier to imagine that apes have a conscience, but it becomes progressively harder to do so the less the animal looks like us. In part because they activate our mirror neurons less and less, and we project ourselves unto them less and less.
And now your claim is that fucking dolphins look so like us. Try listening to yourself. It's hilarious.
