RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 10, 2020 at 1:50 pm
(This post was last modified: February 10, 2020 at 3:48 pm by John 6IX Breezy.)
(February 10, 2020 at 12:52 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: -If you would prefer to use "kind" in this way, we can.
-If there is no such thing as non human consciousness, then fine. If there is, I say fine...but clearly this is not an acceptable proposition to you. Why?
The only thing that's not acceptable to me are claims that suggest we know what other organisms experience (and that theres abundant evidence) when we know no such thing.
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Kinds and degrees were your descriptions; I'm just trying to make sense of how you're using them. For example:
"Contents would be degrees. A cat sees more than we do, but we both see." -Gae
I have no issues using degrees within a specific sense, and saying that one organism has more or less of it than another. But if you're using degrees across senses it no longer makes sense (i.e. that vision and audition are different "degrees" of sensation), which you would need to do if you claim the consciousness of a bat differs from ours in degrees not kind.
And just to beat a dead horse you don't know what a cat sees. If you say a cat's retina is more sensitive to stimulation than ours, that's fine. But we're talking about conscious experience, and you have no idea if sight takes up more real estate in a cats consciousness than in ours.
