(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote:What do you suggest? That I not speak truth because it makes some people who 'don't care about race' uncomfortable?(February 9, 2020 at 9:03 am)Huggy Bear Wrote: Black people don't have that luxury. for example, I live in and open carry state and white people are able to open carry all up in the grocery store, do you think it'd be a good idea for me to live my life completely uncaring of race and do the same?
No. I asked you to imagine being someone who doesn't care about race. I don't at all suggest that black people have that luxury, though I think they probably do in some areas.
(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote:Quote:Do you believe that the Jews should not have gotten reparations also?
Jews who were alive during the Holocaust and were harmed by it should, yes. People who were never slaves should not get reparations for slavery from people who never owned slaves. That sets a crazy precedent where we can all go after societies around the globe for historical grievances belonging to our ancestors.
So you suggest we set a precedent by letting the victims die off, that way nothing has to be paid... why didn't Germany think of that. Also the U.S. was never involved in perpetrating the holocaust, please tell me why WE paid money to the survivors?
Slavery was government sanctioned, last time I looked, the government of the U.S. is still here, and all the wealth generated through stolen labor is still here. You may not have owned slaves, but you benefit off of an economy built by slavery.
(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote:*emphasis mine*Quote:Why are you taking what I said personally?
I'm not. What aren't you addressing my point? I know, but not personally in the way you would, that being black leads to lots of racial profiling and worse. Still, that doesn't change the fact that it makes white people who aren't racist feel icky when someone suggests white people are by default racist or every time we disagree with you it has something to do with race.
But the MAJORITY of white people voted for Trump (who surrounded himself with white supremacists)... people who voted against their own interests in order to maintain white supremacy
(February 9, 2020 at 11:45 pm)Shell B Wrote: It's like you can't imagine that one of us lighter toned folk wasn't even thinking about Kobe being black while talking about his life.
I can pull up a thread right now of people on this forum making excuses for Harvey Milk's rape. Also not one mention of the rape allegations in Kirk Douglas's R.I.P. thread.
The me too movement produced 2 documentary films and is working on a third ALL ARE ABOUT BLACK MEN.
Black men are what? like 5% of hollywood yet 100% of the documentaries about sexual misconduct are about black men. Gail King was comfortable enough to bring up Kobe's allegations in an interview even though the charges were dropped, but when it comes to white folk like Charlie Rose It's...