RE: Is God a logical contradiction?
February 14, 2020 at 4:04 pm
(This post was last modified: February 14, 2020 at 4:07 pm by Mister Agenda.)
It isn't important to warn me about MRI studies, since you don't think it's possible for ANY scientific evidence to support a conclusion of consciousness and I do. I am consistent in following scientific inference in general, whether I like the results or consequences or not, you are making a special exception.
Since you've defined consciousness in such a way that a being without it cannot be said to feel pain, your position is directly relevant to whether it's truly possible to be cruel to animals. It's a consequence of you position. It doesn't make your position wrong, but you cannot consistently hold it and claim that cruelty to animals is...cruel.
(February 14, 2020 at 12:01 pm)John 6IX Breezy Wrote:(February 14, 2020 at 11:32 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: In your opinion it's insufficient. Are you against allowing someone who is brain-dead to die?
And again, if animals are incapable of pain and suffering, there's no such thing as cruelty to animals.
I'm not against letting someone whose brain-dead die.
It seems to me you are very biased towards needing animals to have consciousness. The absence of consciousness seems to affect the way you look at your dog, the way you view cruelty to animals, etc. Why does cruelty to animals matter here? Consciousness doesn't become real just because you've build other concepts on top of it.
Since you've defined consciousness in such a way that a being without it cannot be said to feel pain, your position is directly relevant to whether it's truly possible to be cruel to animals. It's a consequence of you position. It doesn't make your position wrong, but you cannot consistently hold it and claim that cruelty to animals is...cruel.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.