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My intention was not to laugh at you or dismiss you my friend, and my apologies if I was making it come across that way. I'm only trying to illustrate that, yes, while there are definitions in the dictionary of what we call a soul, simply for the purpose of making conversations about this very vague concept easier, I don't think that these definitions constitute as anything even reomtely scientific.
My main point is just that people talk of a soul but really don't even know what it is. So while we can continue to give vague definitions and dance around the point, as humans on this Earth trying to make sense of everything, we don't really even have a grasp on what the "soul," actually is. I feel like I've illustrated my point pretty well.
So, really, nothing scientific is going on when people are talking of "soul." And we shouldn't pretend like there is. And I'm not saying that you are doing that, although you did start to venture into that grass a little bit, But I simply think that humans, religious and non-religious alike, should be brutally honest about what's actually going on... What's actually going on is that we are talking about a belief that some people hold, that is wholly and totally unsupported by any sort of scientific evidence or observation. And it's a belief that gives people a lot of comfort about dying, and losing loved ones... Which is fine for what it is.
But without some sort of working scientific definition, all we have is, at BEST, vague conversations about nothing, essentially. And please don't make the mistake that every Christian makes and say, "Well, science doesn't explain everything!" - because I'm not making that claim. I'm simply saying that when we talk of "Soul," there is nothing scientific going on, and so we shouldn't treat this concept of "Soul" as something that we actually understand down to the t. Because it seems like we don't really understand it at all, other than just as a very vague concept.
And look man, if you believe in a soul, and you know damn well there's nothing scientific about that belief, then coo. I'm Totally fine with people believing whatever the hell they want, essentially. So long as you're not hurting people, or actively trying to shove your beliefs down people's throats, especially children, then I don't really care if you believe in a soul or Heaven or Hell or whatever else, because it's your life.
To each their own, friend.
My intention was not to laugh at you or dismiss you my friend, and my apologies if I was making it come across that way. I'm only trying to illustrate that, yes, while there are definitions in the dictionary of what we call a soul, simply for the purpose of making conversations about this very vague concept easier, I don't think that these definitions constitute as anything even reomtely scientific.
My main point is just that people talk of a soul but really don't even know what it is. So while we can continue to give vague definitions and dance around the point, as humans on this Earth trying to make sense of everything, we don't really even have a grasp on what the "soul," actually is. I feel like I've illustrated my point pretty well.
So, really, nothing scientific is going on when people are talking of "soul." And we shouldn't pretend like there is. And I'm not saying that you are doing that, although you did start to venture into that grass a little bit, But I simply think that humans, religious and non-religious alike, should be brutally honest about what's actually going on... What's actually going on is that we are talking about a belief that some people hold, that is wholly and totally unsupported by any sort of scientific evidence or observation. And it's a belief that gives people a lot of comfort about dying, and losing loved ones... Which is fine for what it is.
But without some sort of working scientific definition, all we have is, at BEST, vague conversations about nothing, essentially. And please don't make the mistake that every Christian makes and say, "Well, science doesn't explain everything!" - because I'm not making that claim. I'm simply saying that when we talk of "Soul," there is nothing scientific going on, and so we shouldn't treat this concept of "Soul" as something that we actually understand down to the t. Because it seems like we don't really understand it at all, other than just as a very vague concept.
And look man, if you believe in a soul, and you know damn well there's nothing scientific about that belief, then coo. I'm Totally fine with people believing whatever the hell they want, essentially. So long as you're not hurting people, or actively trying to shove your beliefs down people's throats, especially children, then I don't really care if you believe in a soul or Heaven or Hell or whatever else, because it's your life.
To each their own, friend.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.