Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position

[The Architect Of Fate]

A small percentage is irrelevant to whether the Earth is fine-tuned to us or not,

Actually it is 

 fine-tuning also includes giving men the tools to deal with these limitations, we obviously are handling the two thirds of the unliveable ocean pretty well.

Nah humans figured all that out and again if it were fine tuned for us we should be able to breathe underwater and drink sea water .This is just ad hoc nonesense as you will declare anything a result of fine tuning .

And your Bierce guy unfortunately died a long time ago, so you might wanna stick around to respond on his behalf.

Yeah so did your pedo prophet so it's irrelevant

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Either of you two god botherers ever wonder why the god who made us by magic from clay would need to make oceans to support us?

In any case, it is absolutely ridiculous to be amazed or surprised by the fact that everything a creature needs to exist, exists, when we observe that the creature does, in fact, exist.  It would be more wondrous, and more indicative of something unknown, if we found fish living on a planet with no oceans, no water.  Same goes for man.

Not that it matters, in the end, since a persons rejection of a religion isn't actually an argument over which superpowers a god does or doesn't have.  Let's just assume that Tinkergod busted out his wrenches and twisted all the things just so.

So what?

The fact said god put so much extra effort into creating "tools" to deal with hostile environments when he simply could have made us perfect for them is absurd . The religious mind will conjure any excuse no matter how out there to deny reality.

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I'm not really understanding what you're driving at.  The quote from Bierce is intended to point out that the Earth clearly wasn't made for Man, since we can't live on more than a small percentage of it. If you don't understand why this is important, you might take it up with Mr. Bierce (if you can find him).

Boru

I wonder if modern ecological science supports Mr. Bierce's point.

As I understand it, if the oceans die the people die too.

Yes they do 

Once again aside he point we still can' live in the ocean which makes no sense if earth is fine tuned for us rather then fish

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You have an awful fallacy right there, ocean guy. Since when size mattered? Think of the microchip in your computer, it's the main reason why we can safely assert the computer is fine tuned.

Nope no fallacy if your analogy worked we would have gills and the ability to drink salt water and the ocean is not safe for us try living under water . 

And if you think a fine tuned universe is equivalent to drops of wine falling from the sky, you're kindly asked to review the literature on this question.

No he thinks a world that was fine tuned for us would mean he whole thing is and nothing in the literature supports your nonesense 

Emotion matters, you know. Would a deity reveal itself by making its existence "overwhelming", that is, its creatures can feel the sense of purpose in their everyday life, or, give them pages of rigorous proofs refuting every line of thought any skeptic has about why god isn't there?

More excuses for your feels ove facts 

Mocking our innate tendency towards belief is ridiculous, and you should feel ashame of yourself for reducing it to some kind of"common logical fallacy", as if ordinary people -who deserve to know god too- can follow sophisticated arguments in the first place.

So more excuses and it is a fallacy no matter how butthurt you get about it .

We have an innate instinct of survival so that when a predator is around, we run. When we feel the innate curiosity to explore, we learn. When we feel strong emotions towards a person, we marry them. And when we feel overwhelmed with our sense of wonder, we fucking believe.

All aside the point 


So you just rambled a lot to cover your fallacy

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They don't give a toss about what ecological science has to say

Yes i do and i don't support your crap 

 People drowning is enough a reason for these guys to make a case against any possible deity.

Your last pats a strawman and yes drowning makes no sense if the earth was made for us and no" tools" aren't a counter there is no reason we should need said tools .

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In the end it's all ad hoc you can invent any excuse to make the world fine tuned no matter how out there, And the fact this absurd theory includes "tools" makes it even more so .