Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position

[LadyForCamus]

Fine, if you say so, but a god who came from no where, no when, and no thing..is very clearlyThat's, actually, the most dishonest answer you can possibly give to your own question. You can't prove this negative answer, you could've stopped at "We don't know",.

Except that we do know, lol.
https://www.sciencenewsforstudents.org/a...flake-made

I didn’t see ”hand-designed by a god” mentioned anywhere in that article. Even if god were the one who set all the natural laws in motion in order to allow for snowflakes to form, it’s still a natural formation that is no mystery to scientists. Do you believe each snowflake was hand designed by a god? Because, that would be a pretty wild claim. I don’t even hear that shit from the hardcore fundies.

The fact that you know how the snowflake came into being, is irrelevant. A supposed god who designed things could've designed them by means of the process of evolution, or by adjusting the laws of physics in such a way to make their existence possible.

Correct, which means the formation of snowflakes is still a blind and natural process, lol. You’re still equivocating.  And, I’ll ask again and maybe a real answer this time: how weak is god that he has to fine tune the entire universe and all of its physical laws, just to get a snowflake to form? 

You're actually anthropomorphising the word design : since people need to use their hands, need manufactures, need planning and time, a logo on the designed product, the same should go for god. And because people don't usually design things through very very thoughtful and long term processes that force these things into existing, they're not designed. And that's a mistake.

It’s your mistake; not mine. Same equivocation fallacy, third time now. You need to look that fallacy up before you try to answer again. Im not going to debate it ad nauseam.

And, we have stuff that looks intelligently designed that is, like a piece of art in a museum.

No, you have stuff that's designed by human beings alone. Why extend your intuitive human definition of design to a deity?

Never mind, I’ll do it for you: 

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logi...uivocation