Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position

[Belacqua]

Do we know that? 

It's important not to confuse act/potency with simple efficient cause. Things may happen in the quantum level with no apparent efficient cause, but this doesn't affect the fact that certain conditions must apply for change to occur.

Yes, we do.

Things happen 'At' the quantum level that effect the macro world.

These quantum effects have no 'Cause'. Nothing acts upon them... they just 'Do', counter to the Aristotle ideas.

Uranium falls apart at a sub atomic level, througt varous other states of matter, to eventually resolve as the element lead.

(I often make the joke that if uranium turned into gold, we'd have a fek ton more reactors in the world.     )

It's not that there's "No apparent cause". As other far smarter than myself have pointed out before, there is no cause. The falling apart can't even be  acuratly predicted it's so 'random'. Only that, after a known amount of time 'X' amount of Uranium just isn't there any more and 'Y' amount of what ever element simply 'Is'.

It doens't matter about anything ecternal, either. The atoms are going to 'Do their thing' regardless.

Cheers.

Not at work.

Nope. Sorry.

You're using the word "cause" in its modern sense. This is what Aristotle would call "efficient cause." 

For Aristotle, a cause is anything that must be the case for something else to be the case. 

So for example hydrogen atoms are a cause of the sun (one of many). Because hydrogen atoms must exist, and have the properties they do, for the sun to exist. But this doesn't mean that hydrogen atoms are the efficient cause of the sun.  

For uranium or other isotopes to decay, several things must be the case. The laws of nature must be as they are, the isotopes must have the nature they do, time must pass, etc. etc.. The fact that the atoms "do their thing," and have a "thing" that they "do" is included in what Aristotle would call a cause. 

But we've already gotten away from the point, which is that a clear (though difficult) definition of God exists.