RE: Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position
March 2, 2020 at 5:49 pm
(This post was last modified: March 2, 2020 at 5:49 pm by Simon Moon.)
(March 2, 2020 at 5:41 pm)Klorophyll Wrote:(March 2, 2020 at 4:37 pm)Belacqua Wrote: It's clear from the amount of content-free snark on this forum: many people are here simply to show disrespect. It's what they like to do.
That's absolutely true. I thank God there is a day of judgement. I thank God that one day everyone will account for every sentence that came out of his mouth, especially any dismissal of good arguments by babble and noise. I thank God my efforts won't go in vain because these children decided it's time to shout.
So, you are actually looking forward to billions of your fellow humans being tortured for eternity for thought crimes?
Belacqua, please try to see why we are so vocal against religions. Klorophill has completely lost his moral compass, completely due to his religion.
Quote:It's understandable why people like Hawking proudly declare that "there is no god" and gladly woke up in the morning full of hope, even desire to spread their stupid ideas about religions, Hawking had a fulfilling academic life that somehow silenced his crying inherent tendency to belief, he also had the most stupid opinion about god ever, and this discrepancy is amazing : world class scientists are prepared to babble nonsensical shit when it comes to god and theology. They replace this innate sense towards awe/belief with their advocacy for its opposite, combined with some social status and a sense of "not needing god", it's a simple psychological trick that sadly works. But when it comes to some of these fools here, they obviously can't follow a train of thought without barking, or handle discussing historical figures completely outside of their local legal system, if there is any, yet face any theist with this mocking attitude, like they're in some kind of cleverness challenge or something. That's the kind of attitude that makes a human being deserve hell.
I recall when no one will even admit there are interesting definitions of God and uninteresting ones, they hate the fact that thinking unbiasedly about definitions leads to forced results like God absolutely not existing or having already revealed himself. For them, all theology is red herring, simply because their christianity turned out to be red herring, and they see no problem in generalizing their childhood trauma to all religions.
Hawking NEVER made the claim that "there is not god", What he said is, there was no need for a god to account for the origin of the universe.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.