(March 4, 2020 at 6:41 pm)Abaddon_ire Wrote:(March 4, 2020 at 6:29 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: We constantly harp on theists here for being so afraid to say, “I don’t know” about questions related to reality, that they just accept, with absolute certainty, some other answer that can’t be demonstrated. Meanwhile, Bel is here basically saying, “I’m not sure what I believe yet; I don’t know yet; I’m still reading and learning”, and you guys can’t wait to jump all over him, and call him a liar. That’s simply unfair. Not every atheist has to be a gnostic atheist just because you are. No one is intellectually obligated to hurry up and get to where you are on the spectrum of belief. Different people can be in different places on the same path, you know. I was an agnostic theist for three times as many years as I have been a strong atheist. Bel is clearly a voracious reader, and has a particular interest in several areas of philosophy related to the nature of our realty and of being. That doesn’t make someone a closet theist. I’m interested in those things too. Maybe you guys are the ones who are uncomfortable with the answer “I don’t know” when it comes to people who are still figuring out what their beliefs are.
Correct. And If you asked him, he would give that answer. He believes in no god/s, he is unsure/on the fence, or he believes in some god.
Now ask him. Pin him down for a solid answer. No judgment from here about whatever answer that might be. But plenty of judgment for evading the question.
In any event, you waste time asking me. Ask him. I am not in his head.
Aaaaaand, you’ve gone and missed my point entirely.
Nay_Sayer: “Nothing is impossible if you dream big enough, or in this case, nothing is impossible if you use a barrel of KY Jelly and a miniature horse.”
Wiser words were never spoken.
Wiser words were never spoken.