Agnosticism IS the most dishonest position

[vulcanlogician]

I don't think moral facts will get you very far on other issues. What distinguishes fornication/cheating from sex with a spouse? They refer to the same act, they're both consensual, but one is hugely immoral.

Does Islam teach the same distinction between consensual/immoral that you are advancing right now? It doesn't.

Consider the case of Nuran Halitogullari, a 14-year-old girl from Istanbul who was abducted on her way from the supermarket. She was raped over the course of six days and then rescued by police. After being reunited with her family, her father decided that she had dishonored the family by having been raped. He then exercised what he regarded as his rightful authority. As he told a newspaper reporter, "I decided to kill her because our honor was dirtied. I didn't listen to her pleas; I wrapped the wire around her neck and pulled at it until she died." Such "honor killings" usually go unpunished. That's because the cultures in which they are committed regard them as justified.

But I do not regard such killings as justified. They are wrong. But show me a piece of scripture from the Quran that expressly forbids such a murder. There isn't one. Sadly so, because Nuran's life ought to have been spared. If you get your sense of justice from the Quran, you are morally BLIND. What distinguishes right from wrong is not scripture, but rather, our own good senses. And whatever scripture that teaches that we rely on it, RATHER than our own good senses is reprehensible. Your holy book is the cause of far more wrong than right. There is some valuable and very true stuff in your holy book, sure. But not enough to account for all the evil it contains. But it not only contains evil... it makes possible evil that would have otherwise never have existed were it not for such-and-such commandment in your holy book. No theist or scriptural literalist has a right to criticize an atheist's sense of morality. Period.