A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.

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If that were really true, then it would cease to be a cat.

False.

Omnipresent and All-Knowing are wrong.

Can't be. Those were in your list of the attributes of god.

God is even far beyond those. If so, then your god must be all-knowing and omnipresent since you claim that he/she/it/housecat has moved beyond such attributes.

[quote='unityconversation' pid='1960967' dateline='1583618738']Yes, we actually discover God every day through human beings.

Human beings exist. Have you any evidence approaching the same level for the existence of any gods at all? Of course you don't.

You said "I mean we first have to establish that a god exists in order for one to somehow have a relationship with that god."

We establish that God exists by listening to the divine teachings of the current Prophet / Messenger / Manifestation.

How do you select among the many claimed representatives of god? What criteria do you use to choose one and dismiss another?

You said: "Furthermore, even if a god did exist, how do you know it would be interested in having some kind of psychic relationship with you?"

Well as I said earlier God is beyond the physical universe and beyond anything that we know, so we will never know God completely, that is His core essence.
But by knowing the human reality, we can know a good number of things about God. And this is especially true with the Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations.

Another unevidenced claim. Can you provide a single verifiable example of ANYTHING beyond space and time?

Even though the common human being can display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level, there is a level beyond that.

If any human can display all of the names and attributes of god, then any human can be a god. All it takes is the will of a single man. If true, your definition of god becomes moot. Anyone can become a god.

The Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations can display the names and attributes to the physical world at the highest level "perfectly."

You already claimed that your prophets do NOT perfectly describe anything. Make up your mind.

So the thing is, if you "really" want to know God, the "absolute" best way to do that is to know the Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations.

And how do you identify the true prophets from the false ones? There are countless thousands of so-called prophets.

Baha'u'llah says:

"And since there can be no tie of direct intercourse to bind the one true God with His creation, and no resemblance whatever can exist between the
transient and the Eternal, the contingent and the Absolute, He hath ordained that in every age and dispensation a pure and stainless Soul be made manifest in the kingdoms of earth and heaven...
These Essences of Detachment, these resplendent Realities are the channels of God's all-pervasive grace. Led by the light of unfailing guidance, and invested with supreme sovereignty, they are commissioned to use the inspiration of Their words, the effusions of Their
infallible grace and the sanctifying
breezes of Their Revelation for the cleansing of every longing heart and receptive spirit from the dross and dust of earthly cares and limitations."

And that is a load of meaningless bovine fecal matter. That dreck is advocating that this universe we inhabit is merely a doormat upon which to wipe our feet before entering a far better place. In effect, you are advocating suicide as a short cut to paradise.

That is what the Heavens Gate cult actually did. And Jim Jones. And David Koresh. And countless others like Andrea Yates. She drowned her five kids so that they would go straight to heaven. She "knew" that hell was in store for her for such an act. But was willing to sacrifice herself so that her children would get a free pass into heaven having not had an opportunity to sin in this world. And according to the logic of religion, she was exactly right. Those poor dead children go directly to heaven. She goes to hell. She sacrificed herself for love of her children because religion.

Then you have the Schaibles. In 2009, their son Kent Schaible died of pneumonia because they refused to attend a physician, preferring to pray over him. The child died a horrible preventable death. They were convisted of involuntary manslaughter and sentenced to 10 years probation with a condition that in the event of illness in any of their other children, medical care MUST be sought. Nevertheless, when their son Brandon Schaible fell ill at the age 8 months, they once again insisted on prayer as the cure and the kid died.

And the death toll goes on.


All of it caused by irrational religious belief.

Yet here you are touting yet another irrational religious belief claiming the very same thing. Why would anyone believe your wild assertions above any other wild claim? You provide no evidence, merely endless assertions. Were I or anyone to follow your modus operandi we could assert that the entire universe was created by a race of magic unicorns that exist outside space and time. And you could not prove us wrong. Although you are welcome to try.