A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.

[Pat Mustard]

@unityconversation Hello again Unity.

I see that your attempt at conversion is not going so well. I'm not sure what you expected. If you want me, as an atheist, to validate any part of your "conversation" as accurate or part of reality (except as a mental construct) then you will be disappointed. All I hear is you regurgitating what you have been programmed by religion to say. Do you understand that after your mental concept/construct (fantasy) has have been challenged, repeating yourself is not helping your position at all? I guess I shouldn't expect much else, religion does not like independent thought.

Humans are special because we can imagine a god = divine reality, got it. Now demonstrate that imagining a god means anything other than humans have the ability to imagine things.

I'm OK with you having a religion. What I'm not OK with is your attempt to get me to believe. As far as I'm concerned your religion is simply a mental crutch and a means for humans to manipulate other humans (good or bad, sometimes both).

BTW, I'm pretty sure my dog considers me a god. How's that for divine reality?

Oh, if you ask me I think that it's going well. What, you think that I've come here to try and convert you all? Then you've basically misunderstood why I came here.

Then why are you trying so hard to convert us?

I cut the rest of your post because it is meaningless bullshit.

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What is a divine, spiritual thing? What is it made of? If it’s not material, how could you possibly demonstrate it exists?

When we talk about divine / spiritual things we're just talking about things that are beyond the physical reality.

The divine reality is not made of anything material.

What I keep trying to explain is that the best demonstration of the divine reality and of God is the human being itself because we can manifest the divine names and attributes of God to the physical world .

Let me explain it like this:

You know how in the bible it says that God created the human in His image. We what that really meant is that  the human being can display the attributes of God. For instance, we all heard of the will of God right, well guess what we have a will as well. You heard of God being the creator right, well guess what, we are creators as well, ect.

The definition of evidence is:

"the available body of facts or information indicating whether a belief or proposition is true or valid".

And the "information" that's in the divine teachings of the baha'i scriptures are "indicating" that the proof of the reality of God is the names and attributes that only the human being can display.

No lad, baseless assertions are still not evidence. Now start providing some evidence for your assertions.

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Hi.

So the perspective that I have is that, we will never fully and completely know God.

The only way to know God is to know His names and attributes.

Even though the human being is an animal just like all other species, we are distinct because we have a divine reality.

The human being has the potential to display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level, that's what makes us have dominion over the animal.

The names and attributes of God are basically all of the good qualities that is possible for the human being to have, it's just that society doesn't call them that.

The human being is the most perfect of all creation.

I dunno mate, not very convincing. 

Instead of being distinct because we have "divine reality" im fairly sure science says its because we have a conscious

I think uve tried to link our consciousness with God but failed. There are explanations that make it possible in my eyes

Your explanation needs refining, to put it kindly

Oh great, another episode of "when idiots try having an intellectual argument".