A possibly new perspective on this thing that we know as God.

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You said: How do divine teachings prove the existence of god?

Sure. How do they? You think you have answered that, but have you? Lets find out.

It is the combination of the divine teachings and the life of the Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations that prove the existence of God.

What divine teachings? Whose divine teachings? Every single one of them so far is immoral. Mo was a blatant warlord, jebus was jewish end times proponent, and so on. not a single one of them got anything right. So where exactly are these magic prophets that somehow know the mind of god?

Even though the common human being can display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level, there is a level beyond that.

That is a direct claim. Provide evidence for that claim. You will not because you cannot and you know it.

The Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations can manifest the names and attributes of God to the physical world at the highest level "perfectly."

Another claim. Was jebus manifesting god when he never condemned slavery? Was mo manifesting god when he engaged in paedophilia?

So the thing is, if you "really" want to know God, the "absolute" best way to do that is to know the Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations.

All of them are obvious cunts of the highest order. Why would anyone put any credence in them?

You said: "How do you know that god "is beyond the physical universe and beyond anything that we know"

We know that through the teachings of Baha'u'llah. He is the current divine educator of God for this time and age.

Another baseless claim. Can you demonstrate that Bwahahahahahaha is even an educator? Of course not.

You said: "Also, you just said that we can discover god every day through humans, but now you're saying we can never fully know god... Which one is it? What is the difference between discovering and knowing god? You're not making any sense."

We can't know God in terms of His core essence, that will never be known.

But the other things of God like His names and attributes can be known. And we discover those every day with human beings.
What "names and attributes"? You dodge those every time.

You said: How do divine teachings prove the existence of god?

It is the combination of the divine teachings and the life of the Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations that prove the existence of God.

Even though the common human being can display all of the names and attributes of God at the highest level, there is a level beyond that.

The Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations can manifest the names and attributes of God to the physical world at the highest level "perfectly."

So the thing is, if you "really" want to know God, the "absolute" best way to do that is to know the Prophets / Messengers / Manifestations.

Bull. All of your claimed prophets are immoral. How do we know this? Because morality depends on no god at all.

You said: "How do you know that god "is beyond the physical universe and beyond anything that we know"

We know that through the teachings of Baha'u'llah. He is the current divine educator of God for this time and age.

So some bloke in pretty robes said so? I think not.

Frankly, all you have is unevidenced claims. Rock on back when you have anything remotely approximating actual evidence. Right now all you have is "some bloke said so" and that is it. Nothing more.

You said: "Also, you just said that we can discover god every day through humans, but now you're saying we can never fully know god... Which one is it? What is the difference between discovering and knowing god? You're not making any sense."

We can't know God in terms of His core essence, that will never be known. But the other things of God like His names and attributes can be known. And we discover those every day with human beings.

Horseshit. Obvious horseshit.

Want to know why? Of course you don't

The human reality just means the spiritual reality of the human being, not physical. The spiritual reality of the human being are things like the divine qualities that we display and manifest to the physical world.

Define what "spiritual" means, then demonstrate it to exist. You will refuse to do so because you cannot.

Spiritual is a shibboleth that you attempt to foist upon all and sundry. You are making it all up out of whole cloth.

Hey Abaddon_ire could you do me a favor?

Post your replies again but in a new separate post.

The format of the forum is starting to get a little confusing.