Elizabeth Warren out of race

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There would be no reason or need to.

Except the ever present bottom line; reduction of costs, massaging of profit margin.
Employers pay women less on average because women will accept a lower wage. If workers are receiving an income from elsewhere the employers will offer lower wages expecting workers to make up the shortfall from their UBI.
This is exactly the same process that occurred with agricultural subsidies allowing supermarkets to offer lower-than-cost prices for produce and forcing farmers to plan based on maximizing subsidies over any other considerations.

So the argument being that business simply would because they could. Basically, "I'm going to pay you less to do this job because I know you're making money elsewhere." That logic doesn't really follow... but I suppose if employers knew for a fact that everyone is making, say, $12k a year through their UBI, they could use it as an excuse to penny-pinch. Though, there has to be some regulation to prevent that, no? Red flags would go up if employers are suddenly paying every employee they have $4 less per hour, so there has to be some regulation to prevent that. Then, of course, the issue is, how much regulation is appropriate? I do believe in a free market, after all.

So, I hear you. But I don't think that's an end-all reason to simply dismiss the UBI concept.

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There would be no reason or need to.

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OLB is... OLB. I like the guy but sometimes I don't follow his line of thinking. Which is okay.

Also... I'm not hard-pressed to believe that companies will do anything to improve the bottom line, but that sort of logic doesn't really apply if someone has a second job, does it? I don't think so. However, like I said, if companies knew for a fact that everyone is making $12k a year already, they could be tempted to use it as an excuse to pay less, but I think regulations could be put in place to prevent that. I don't know. I think the concept is interesting; it's a huge reason I was a bit drawn to Yang, before realizing that the media and the DNC were dead-set on not letting him become POTUS. Though, I'm not necessarily married to the idea, nor am I going to rail against it so viciously like some people here have.

I think it's worth a shot. In America, we're always going to strive to be better. And what's good for one of us is good for all of us, and vice-versa. Imagine if we could actually say that we didn't have homeless people in this country... that would be amazing. And maybe it's a pipe-dream. But why does it have to be? We've done things here that fifty years ago were thought unthinkable. So I don't know. I'm truly interested to see what our country will be in, say, 25 years.