[Serious] Atheist Dogma

[The Grand Nudger]

Now, according to you, atheists will have to clarify their alignment with agnosticism - right??? Something to that effect - right?

Why?

As Greene pointed out..yes, while it's not really a floating requirement to announce it, there is a difference between an agnostic atheist, and a gnostic atheist.   As mentioned, there are constant attempts by the faithful to saddle agnostics with some positive claim about gods existence.  The only positive claim that they're making is about their own personal status of belief.  

It's always made me giggle, as a gnostic atheist.  They spend so much effort trying to tell the other guys what they think that they don;t seem to have any gas left for people who actually do fit the bill.

Because "atheism," is inaccurately defined as simply lack of belief.

A lack of belief - in gods.  Let's at least try.  As a gnostic atheist, I have no lack of belief, it's just the one thing I don't believe in that I'm referring to...and unlike an agnostic atheist I feel very confident, or consider my position on this issue to be knowledge, if you prefer.  

The inanimate objects can be atheists, but they cannot be agnostic atheists, like most of the atheists here at AF - right? 
And, we are not sure about the agnostic alignment of the plants and animals.

This was covered pages ago.  Our "ists" explicitly refer to people.  A trained lizard isn't a "machinist" - but if nutballs want to argue over simple terms and their meanings by asking whether a lizard is an ist, then sure, lizards can be atheists just as much and for the same reason that human infants can be. Or children. Or adults. In fact, lizards can be agnostics just like atheists and theists can be, again for the same reasons.

That this failed attempt at reductio...well..fails..is another demonstration of why these terms and their definitions are adequate. Nutballs try to break them, and just can't get there. A lizard that we'll decide to call an agnostic atheist is a lizard that doesn't know whether or not a god exists, and doesn't believe in gods. Far as we can tell..pretty much any lizard. Equivalent in god knowledge and god beliefs, set apart only by ones lizardness and the others humanity.