Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?

[The Grand Nudger]

Exactly Kloro, exactly.  What reliability am I talking about.  This is the third time you've provided demonstration that you don't believe in the thing you called proof. 

What did I call proof, exactly? You have a lost Q source on the one hand, an available Q source on the other. So, again, what reliability of the gospels are you talking about?

I have a lost source precisely nowhere, and I'm talking about no reliability at all.  You... are my source. 

You indicated that the volume of work rejected was proof of the reliability of magic book.  You've since demonstrated that you don't believe that this is proof of reliability in the case of me rejecting half of anything you have to say, or the christians rejecting their own apocrypha.  

This is a fairly simple litmus test for the sorts of claims that you and others like you enjoy making.  You should expect to hear it alot, and if you feel compelled to say something that you know wont pass this test...no matter how much you believe it, you should probably keep it to yourself.   

If, ofc, you intend to offer cogent arguments for your faith.

Jesus contemporaries weren't convinced he was a god, first of all, this doctrine came much later . And his sayings were transmitted, we lost them after his death. If we had sayings about his sleep position, yawns, etc. we would devote the same kind of attention to study the heritage. You have that about Muhammad, what are you doing about it ?

Found another one.  You don't believe in the rule of attention devoted, either.  Should have kept it to yourself.

So, you have no book suggestion. Good to know how much you read about Islam.

About as much as you do, maybe a bit more...since you can't find any books about it.  

I don't mind confessing that islam and magic book bore me to tears.  It's a fairly straightforward post axial fairy tale.  Not nearly as creative or masterful as most of it's competition, and nowhere near as interesting as new religious movements.   

What political motivation did Muhammad have to endure death threats and torture for 13 years... I don't get it, if you do, help me out. It's clear politics is involved with regards to choosing the next caliph, nobody denies that, but not so much on why a group of proficient poets will go to extreme measures to fabricate a book about god, belief and monotheism.

What political motivation does anyone have for enduring death threats for years?  Maybe you should ask the christians.  Why would they go to such extreme measures to fabricate a book about a god-man that never existed?

Found another one, haven't we.