Was Prophet Mohammed a caravan thieve?

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And your reasons for believing these countries exist are..........?

Not the reasons™ you offered. 

Let's stop this cheap game, pal. If I don't have a clue about what reason can possibly convince you of anything, such as countries existing, then you're not making any effort here.

That's refreshing.  I also don't believe in magic books.  Pure sources, like the quran.  See..we have alot in common.

It's highly likely, tough not certain, that the Qur'an we have today is authentic. The Qur'an isn't a pure source in this sense, then.

There is a comparison between the christian and islamic case in every metric you offered.  We won't be debating this.  You can lose your shit or not.  I don't care.

No, again, there is no comparison. These *metrics* can only be applied to a chain of narrators going all the way back to the prophet in question, you can't make this happen in christianity, thus, no metric applies.

You have one problem, there is no other "magic book" than the Qur'an. Are you really just going to ignore the universal fact that Jesus' sayings are gone forever... according to Jesus's followers...? Bible would've been a competing magic book if there is at least the claim that it's the words of Jesus. The same forces in play... are you kidding? Muslims scholars investigating how reliable is some chain that ENDS with Muhammad.. Christian scholars playing combinatorics with the four gospels, Q source long gone..? And you think there is some other magic book to take into consideration..?
There aren't even that many claims in Abrahmic religions. Christians admit their fuckups, Jews don't like outsiders to begin with, what else should we be looking for...??

The NT's definition, for example, according to miss Wiki, discusses the teachings and person of Jesus, discusses, read that again, discusses, not reports.

And once again, the issues with christianity are entirely different, meeting in councils to revise core beliefs.... what the actual fuck? This never happened in Islam. Minor Islamic sects disagree about fine theological details of god, not whether he is one or three people, or whether some prophet is himself god, or whether we should make Muhammad an eternal necessary being...

I don't have any problems with regards to magic books.  That's your baby.

Magic books? Name two -in light of what I wrote above.

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In older times accusing someone of a real crime in this forum (calling someone a terrorist, murderer, rapist, etc..) deserved at least a warning. Atlass aka winterhold should know that. Not only that, he is disrupting the discussion with klorophil (I have no love for his position), probably because he wasn't getting enough attention.

And when he's given attention, he goes back to accusations.