RE: A 'proof' of God's existence - free will
April 28, 2020 at 7:39 am
(This post was last modified: April 28, 2020 at 7:49 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(April 27, 2020 at 9:58 pm)mrj Wrote: If there is no free will, WHY then do we have the ILLUSION of free will?Maybe we don't. We notice that we select and actualize. You were mentioning before that you were aware of other things™ which might have forced some given outcome, and if you're aware of that, then there either is no illusion, or it's not a very compelling illusion.
(April 28, 2020 at 2:14 am)cleansed Wrote: If God did not exist, there could be no free will since everything would determined by natural processes that started at the beginning of the Universe. If the Universe could be rewound and set in motion at the same point once again it would unfold in exactly the same way every single time. So no matter what I do I will always do what I have been predetermined to do. I could try to somehow work against it but of course that was predetermined as well.That would be fatalist universe. It's certainly true that in a fatalist universe you would either have not free will..or it wouldn't matter to outcomes if you did. The same may be true in the real universe as well, lol. Additionally, if it's true, then it's true regardless of the existence of any gods.
(April 28, 2020 at 3:38 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote: In regards to the matter of 'Free will'? As a simple lay man I'm still learning about the concept and at the moment actually have no idea as to whether such a thing 'Is' or 'Is not' or if there should be a completely different question asksd.
It's that one, there at the end, IMO. Free will is a component of our superstitions - folk stories about what we are and how we work...and whatever factual effect we might be referring to when we use the term, that's still a thing.
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