RE: the nature of sin
April 29, 2020 at 11:45 am
(This post was last modified: April 29, 2020 at 12:06 pm by Drich.)
(April 28, 2020 at 4:48 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:interesting.. never had anything to do with a catholic worship service aside from studying it.(April 28, 2020 at 4:24 pm)Drich Wrote: then why put a number on the amount of times a prayer had to be repeated? that is what makes it a punishment. contrition would see a man pray till he felt he earned penance. maybe bucky would have felt penance after just one prayer, but now as a means to earn his forgiveness he must pray 35 more times.
(this is all silly anyway as the bible says we can not earn penance or work our way to contrition.) rather we are to repent. Which can be a completely internal change with no external changes made.
No, one doesn’t ‘earn’ penance. Penance is the overt manifestation of the inner feeling of contrition. God, via the priest, absolves you of your sin prior to any penance being performed.
The reason that multiple prayers are often - but not always - suggested is a reflection of the severity of the mortal sin and for the priest to be sure that the penitent is truly contrite. But there isn’t anything in Catholic dogma which requires prayer for absolution. I’ve made confessions where I was asked to put a pound in the Poor Box, or apologize to Tommy Carlyle for swiping his bike - no prayers involved. More than once, I was told to ‘make a good act of contrition’ - the actual act was left up to me.
But I agree it’s all rather silly.
Boru
my sister #3 is a Lutheran which aside from the pope follows alot dot he traditional mindless stuff. and my sister#2 is but lives in La because he husband is plus she like all that crazy ornate stuff. I watched a service/mass if this was all i knew of Christianity i would still be atheist.
(April 28, 2020 at 8:43 pm)The Valkyrie Wrote:(April 28, 2020 at 8:25 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: ‘Sin lies only in hurting other people unnecessarily. All other “sins” are invented nonsense (hurting yourself isn’t sinful, just stupid).’ - Robert Heinlein
Boru
I am SUCH a sinner!
1/2 way there. now just accept Jesus as you atonement and we can be forever neighbors.
(April 29, 2020 at 12:24 am)Paleophyte Wrote: Sin is the preposterous religious notion that The AllMighty Creator of the Universe cares what you do with your genitals.
It's funny to think all sin to you is genital related. That reeks of self guilt.
(April 29, 2020 at 1:44 am)Belacqua Wrote:(April 29, 2020 at 12:24 am)Paleophyte Wrote: Sin is the preposterous religious notion that The AllMighty Creator of the Universe cares what you do with your genitals.
Dante shows lust to be the least bad and most easily forgiven sin. The worst is pride.
you do know dante is not apart of the bible in anyway shape or form right?
I made the same mistake thinking it was the tome/standard of hell.
(April 29, 2020 at 6:32 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Convince me that a god, your god, exists, then we can start to talk about "sin".
Go!
why would i want to break your delusion that there is no God? why would i want to force your eyes open I personally do not want one of you to do or learn any more than what it is in your to know bout god. i am here to simply provide you with easy to understand truth about the God of the bible. if you want it so that there will be no question of what if i were exposed to the truth what if i had only known...
Don't want to learn about sin, don't care to know how god judges people if not by morality you all prize so much.. I don't care