(October 25, 2011 at 3:51 am)lucent Wrote:
I haven't met a single atheist who will even consider any evidence beyond Jesus Christ appearing in front of them, doing a miracle, getting it on video, and having it verified by at least 10 witnesses. You're already predisposed to reject everything I have to say, and not only that, but your entire worldview requires that you reject it apriori. The idea that I might be correct doesn't even enter your mind. All you're looking for in my posts are things to pick apart and use against me.
Appeal to authority??
Really luce...you are starting to unhinge. It's NOT about YOU is it?? It's about your god-boy thingy?? Or are you personalising the whole criticism of your belief??
(October 25, 2011 at 3:51 am)lucent Wrote: According to statistics, you're the abnormal one. 95 percent of this country professes belief in God, and over 90 percent of the rest of the world does too. The difference here is, I give you credit for being a (somewhat) reasonable human being with sincere beliefs. I used to be a strict materialist, so I know where you're coming from. I can understand the position of agnostics and atheists, having formally been one. But I also know that you're so locked into your box of atheism that you cannot even imagine how I might believe what I do. When I was agnostic I thought this brand of militant anti-theism was anti-intellectual and intellectually incurious. The truth is that the discussion of the existence of God is one of the most intellectually rewarding conversations you can have, but all you want to do is shut it down before it even begins. Christopher Hitchens makes the point succinctly:
Oh dear..your argument is very weak here...95% ..where did you drag those stats up from??
"Statistics are like bikinis...what they reveal is interesting..what they hide id VITAL!"
(October 25, 2011 at 3:51 am)lucent Wrote:
EDIT: I thought this was the video..there is a video where he makes the point that a conversion about God touches upon all the most interesting topics of human existence, and that was part of the reason he enjoyed the debate..I'll have to find it.
Your god does not exist...except in your own mind...you can therefore be termed ..insane. Your scripture is out of date and your values are no longer worthy of consideration...
How am I doing so far luce??
(October 25, 2011 at 3:13 am)Cinjin Wrote:(October 25, 2011 at 1:04 am)lucent Wrote: The debate is there for everyone to see. Fact is, your performance in the debate was fairly weak and you were pretty vulnerable towards the end of it. You shut it down after you started to flounder, and not only that, but you were a gentleman about it and took the last word so you could slander me uncontested. Now you're here to finally try to justify yourself in front of me and everyone else. Pretty lame, I have to say.
First of all, there is no way that any one here can secure the last word for themselves, as you can at any time start a thread to post anything you like regarding any conversation. Could not this last remark of yours be considered "the last word" if you so choose it to be? If you feel cheated, feel free to start a thread and draw attention to our debate so that you may have the last word. I assure you, it won't matter in the least. You will still be viewed just as bat shit crazy as you were before.
Also, you should know that two of your own brothers-in-christ PM'd me about the debate and said that they did not support your incessant line of questioning after I had answered your questions repeatedly. It would seem your ludicrous arguments and constant whining about non-existant ad homs were even embarrassing to them.
Anyway, as you stated, the debate is there for all to see, and you sir, are the only one here who believes yourself to have won the upper hand. Feel free to take any "last words" you wish, the evidence is there for all to read.
No need, I just wanted to remark on your talking about me in the third person and justifying what you did in the debate, while trying to delegitimize my posts by ganging up on me with Deistpaladin, as if you had been in this thread all along. I just thought it was lame.
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