(October 25, 2011 at 3:32 pm)salty Wrote: Concerning the OP: If there are choices, there is freewill. El Dinero brought up an example with sandwhiches, let's try that again.
A man lays out four sandwhiches, beef, chicken, turkey and ham. He tells you, "choose turkey." Do you still have freewill? You do, because the options are still available the sandwhiches are sitting right there in front of you. You don't have to listen to that man, he's simply trying to control you, based on what you know of him you will decide if you'll obey. You don't have to choose any of the sandwhiches, maybe you're not hungry. You will use your own judgement to choose what you want, that is the basis of freewill.
Ok, so I'm allowed to get drunk and have sex with everyone I want in heaven then, right? Since I don't have to listen to God trying to control me, as you said. But you already said I wouldn't be able to. Help me out.
