(December 3, 2010 at 9:05 am)Abraham3 Wrote: If we do not have free will [in heaven], then have we not lost something of immense value?
That follows only if we had free will to begin with. The question put forward by the original poster—whether or not there is free will in heaven, and the significant experience of loss if there is not—is rendered meaningless if man has never had free will. If the original poster was still active, then I would challenge the assumption his question takes for granted.
(October 11, 2011 at 9:17 am)Zen Badger Wrote: A man walks up to you and tells you that you have two choices: either (1) you hand over your wallet or (2) get your brains blown out. Where is the free will in those choices?
How does giving you a choice between A and B deny you free will? Is it because there is no C to choose from? I fail to see how giving you three things to choose from allows you to exercise free will but giving you two things to choose from robs you of free will. You need to explain how that follows.
(October 24, 2011 at 3:07 pm)salty Wrote:(October 24, 2011 at 10:28 am)thesummerqueen Wrote: Salty - who defines what's unhealthy?
1. family ...
2. your body ...
3. society ...
4. science ...
Now that is interesting. God did not make it on Salty's list.
Man is a rational animal who always loses his temper when
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)
called upon to act in accordance with the dictates of reason.
(Oscar Wilde)