RE: Islam
May 25, 2020 at 5:15 am
(This post was last modified: May 25, 2020 at 6:39 am by Deesse23.)
(May 25, 2020 at 3:42 am)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:It has been long ago.(May 25, 2020 at 1:05 am)Deesse23 Wrote: Oh,wow, he managed to piss off peebo with his arbaric and insane ramblings. Haven't seen that one yet.😁
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It's not annoyance so much as frustration.
Once some one is happy with their ignorance. Digging them out of that hole just seems impossible.
Really, the discussion with WinterHold now seems at the level of them just sticking their fingers in their ears because we're shouting the valid point of "Humperdink! Humperdink! Humperdink! Humperdink!"
Cheers.
Not at work.
However over time, he himself reveals what drives him, the motivations and basic foundations. Watch the repeating themes, like hate (his frequent use of in-group and out-group terms), while claiming he loves people (just not the *bad ones*), like violence, while claiming he is a peaceful man (but of course not towards the *bad* ones). We have seen him multiple times now hiding like a coward behind his book, claiming that he will never kill. Nevertheless he ravels in violence, suffering of others and their death. I dont doubt he sincerely thinks its a decent thing to wish suffering and death upon major portions of the world population (literally!) but hey, his god is doing the actual killing, Atlass himself, well he is just sitting on the ranks. As if the gladiators in the arena were the only cruel and guilty people in the colosseum. He doesnt get that the people applauding and cheering are part of the problem too. He is one of those cowards who think they are perfectly innocent as long as they arent getting their hands dirty themselves.
He is basically a (wannabe) terrorist. He truly thinks terrorism is justified, and is an effective instrument to achieve his goals. Read his words in this very thread. The only thing he is missing, is to actually act on behalf of his (twisted) belief. He wants to terrorize people systematically (aka chopping hands off to keep them from stealing) he just thinks that should be done by someone else, since he is an oh-so-peaceful person. His get out of jail card ultmately being "but is all for a greater good". We know many people like him from history books. He is the worst kind of moral monster, one of those, once caught and demasekd would hide again....behind his book and the others who did the actual cruelty.
A coward, no more no less.
Its also telling that all this violence he is directing he doing so at others, never himself. He simply doesnt ever picture himself to be on the receiving end of his own cruelty. He never talks about himself being a thief (and we all have stolen something at some point in our life). Have you seen him ever say "sure, i have stolen, and i would have deserved to get my hand chopped off"? He is like a slave holder from the US south having no problem with slavery, because....he is no "goddamn fucking nigger".
He presupposes what he says and what he thinks his book is saying is correct, so why should he matter how "unjust" and people who are "wrong" are treated? He is none of them, by definition.
I am not saying he is a psychopath, those people have (afaik) a born deficiency that makes them unable to feel empathy, but he shows sociopathic traits, and sociopathy is trained, most probably by those who show him how to interpret his book *. Sociopaths do feel empathy, but they are able to ignore it to cast it aside.
He thinks of himself being a victim, all the time, and justifies his violence and hate by arguing that a victim has the right to fight back. Who are we to tell the poor victim to not fight back? Its on the core of his justification of violence: "But mommy, they started first!"
*no same human being reads a book, without being externally influenced, and concludes, "yeah, chopping hands off for a minor crime is ok". Nobody who was raised by halfway decent parents who taught him about empathy would do that. Maybe he was raised properly, idk, but probably at one point his anger about the current way the things are in the (his part of) world was growing unchecked. Maybe he has noone to check him, noone to talk sense into him, and that stupid book is poisonous. In that case the poison meets some very fertile ground.
In the end, whatever the reasons are, what the story behind was, i agree with (forgot the name now): He has turned into an uncivilized savage. The kind of person that needs to be checked, that we hope never will act on his beliefs, who never will have the power to create any part of the horror movie of a society he has in mind. Ironically he probably is used (by some) as a justification to keep treating the middle east exactly as it has been treated in the past. An irony that will never dawn upon him, since he is too much blinded and fascinated by the violence p0rn in his sick mind.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse