Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: August 18, 2026, 7:53 am

Thread Rating:
  • 0 Vote(s) - 0 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me...
(May 31, 2020 at 10:19 am)polymath257 Wrote: So, in your little scenario, the scientists would NOT say it is impossible for a frog to sing. They would observe it singing and start with that information, proceeding to try to figure out how it is possible.

This is a re-statement of what you said before. I understand what you've been saying.

You are sure that anything that happens is natural. You rule out the supernatural a priori. 

You are very committed to this metaphysical view. You may well be right.

(May 31, 2020 at 1:27 pm)Grandizer Wrote: I think I see what you're trying to say (maybe). If I started seeing frogs singing Italian duets and I was sure it wasn't me hallucinating and the notes were clearly coming from them through mysterious processes within their bodies (and not through some hard-to-see nearby device that is emitting Italian songs and deceptively making it look like it's the frogs singing), I'd definitely consider the "supernatural" (as in beyond the scope of science) as a serious possibility in this case, at least temporarily until/unless a clear explanation in science points us back to a very "naturalistic" explanation. But I'd still opt for a naturalistic explanation primarily, due to the metaphysical worldview I hold to.

This is exactly what I've been saying. 

I'm very grateful that you would take the time to understand it. I wish there were some kind of prize I could give.
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: Atheist VS Naturalist - the latter sounds more appealing to me... - by Belacqua - May 31, 2020 at 3:52 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Is life more satisfying as an atheist or religionist? FrustratedFool 96 23484 November 10, 2023 at 11:13 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
  No soul? No free will and no responsibility then, yet the latter's essential... Duty 33 10537 August 26, 2020 at 4:35 pm
Last Post: HappySkeptic
  His wish sounds familiar purplepurpose 1 1509 November 16, 2017 at 4:55 pm
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  Closet Atheist Coming Out and Telling Family and Friends You're An Atheist Cholley71 10 9559 September 27, 2016 at 1:01 am
Last Post: Minimalist
  Ugh, how come I, an atheist, have the ability to ACT more "Christian" than...... maestroanth 7 3034 April 9, 2016 at 7:46 pm
Last Post: Edwardo Piet
  Do atheists like Atheist Roo have anything useful to offer the Atheist community? IanHulett 21 11252 January 1, 2016 at 10:33 am
Last Post: TheRocketSurgeon
  Religious kids more likely to be cunts than atheist ones Napoléon 12 4718 November 6, 2015 at 5:50 pm
Last Post: paulpablo
  More atheist men than women? Catholic_Lady 203 66792 July 9, 2015 at 9:12 pm
Last Post: Thumpalumpacus
  Are Deists more like theists or Atheist? Twisted 37 15250 May 28, 2015 at 10:18 am
Last Post: comet
  Quiet Atheist vs Militant Atheist z7z 62 22793 May 18, 2015 at 1:32 am
Last Post: abentwookie



Users browsing this thread: 2 Guest(s)