(October 26, 2011 at 6:23 am)lucent Wrote: The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too. Yes, they are separate people, and together they are one God.
THANK YOU. I mean that sincerely. This brief admission is refreshingly honest. You've admitted that it's bullshit to try to reconcile strict Jewish monotheism with the concept that a godman on earth can forgive sins and be an intercessor.
With regards to the OP: Q.E.D.
Quote:Your meme is inaccurate, and theologically illiterate.Don't just say "Nuh uhuh". Point out where.
Do you claim Jesus is not the lamb of God? Do you not believe in the redemptive value of his sacrifice on the cross? Do you not believe this sacrifice was essential to our attaining forgiveness? Do you not believe that this sinful state came about because of the fall at Eden? If you do believe all these things then don't whine because I tell it like it is without mincing words.
Quote:Pulling the plug on your fantasy right there. Your god is omnipotent and omniscient. There is no AWOL.(October 25, 2011 at 11:04 am)DeistPaladin Wrote: So how do you think that would play out in International Court?
Here is a more accurate account:
Soldier: Unit 37 has gone AWOL sir...
Quote:You must think history is "utter crap" then. Let's take science for example. It had its birth place in Christian EuropeAnd Christianity did all it could to prevent it and enforce dogma in place of inquiry. The Enlightenment was only possible when the monolithic power of the Church was broken by the Reformation. The Protestants were just as anti-intellectual but the fight between them and the Catholics gave scientists the room to maneuver they needed.
Quote:, and many of its founders were deeply committed Christians.Or were wise enough to say so in a society that burned heretics at the stake.
Quote:The development of the scientific method owes a lot of Christianity.Care to elaborate on that bold assertion? At least the Muslims have some ground to stand on with their claim to modern science, since they kept Greeco-Roman learning alive while Christian Europe was in the Christian Dark Ages.
Quote:Let's say that a persons extended death witnesses the reality of death to 5 people who wouldn't have otherwised realized it, which leads them to eventually accept Christ and avoid hell. If they hadn't witnessed it, they never would have realized it and would have died in their sins.
Sorry, I don't even know where to begin. Should I explain that it's a non sequitur to witness a drawn out death and to convert to Christianity. Shall I muse on how an omnipotent god might find more coherent ways to speak to people? Maybe I could point out that everyone older than 20 is already aware that we die? Or perhaps I should just remark how twisted it is to be so terrified of a non-existent hell that you can mentally justify such flimsy rationalizations.
At this point in your post, I'm exhausted dealing with your fucktardary. I'll return later to deal with the rest of your drivel.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
... -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
... -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist