Scripture for Trinitarians

[lucent]

THANK YOU. I mean that sincerely. This brief admission is refreshingly honest. You've admitted that it's bullshit to try to reconcile strict Jewish monotheism with the concept that a godman on earth can forgive sins and be an intercessor.

With regards to the OP: Q.E.D.

I've admitted no such thing. Your interpretation of scripture leaves everything to be desired. It's fairly clear in the OT that there are many references to the plurality of God. I could list them if you want.

Pulling the plug on your fantasy right there. Your god is omnipotent and omniscient. There is no AWOL.

AWOL means absent without leave. Either answer to the spirit of the argument or drop the sad pretense of critiquing a metaphor.

And Christianity did all it could to prevent it and enforce dogma in place of inquiry. The Enlightenment was only possible when the monolithic power of the Church was broken by the Reformation. The Protestants were just as anti-intellectual but the fight between them and the Catholics gave scientists the room to maneuver they needed.

In other words, your statement was incorrect and you have no argument to the contrary.

Or were wise enough to say so in a society that burned heretics at the stake.

Easy enough to say, isn't it

Care to elaborate on that bold assertion? At least the Muslims have some ground to stand on with their claim to modern science, since they kept Greeco-Roman learning alive while Christian Europe was in the Christian Dark Ages.

I guess you've never heard of Francis Bacon?

Sorry, I don't even know where to begin. Should I explain that it's a non sequitur to witness a drawn out death and to convert to Christianity. Shall I muse on how an omnipotent god might find more coherent ways to speak to people? Maybe I could point out that everyone older than 20 is already aware that we die? Or perhaps I should just remark how twisted it is to be so terrified of a non-existent hell that you can mentally justify such flimsy rationalizations.

Or perhaps these situations are little more complex than you comprehend and your immediate leap to emotionalism negates anything more than a superficial understanding. Your ultimate argument is, any pain proves God is cruel. To which I reply, I expect someone who is content to die forever in a meaningless Universe to be a little more accomodating to pain. Are you a terrible parent because you let your kid play by yourself and he got hurt? Should you put him in a bubble and never let him out again?

Oh by the way Lucent, I just want to be sure I understand you clearly:

A bit more brief:

Unable to prevent evil = moral monster
Able but not willing to prevent evil = OK

A god that creates a universe too big for it to micromanage, which creates untold numbers of life forms which suffer and die without any hope, crying out for answers which never come = moral monster

A god that creates a universe and, due to being omnipotent, omniscient and capable of personal relationship with all of us, who upholds the entire Universe and is responsible for your every breath, who allows for evil and restrains it, who uses life and death for the greater good = OK

At this point in your post, I'm exhausted dealing with your fucktardary. I'll return later to deal with the rest of your drivel.

I'll answer these while I am waiting.