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Christian Looking For Debate
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RE: Christian Looking For Debate
(October 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm)SeekerOfTruth Wrote: This is the biggest struggle that I've had concerning God. I agree in that it really wouldn't be a bad idea for God to just prove his own existence. I often wish that if God really exists that he would just appear to everyone.

YOUR god?!!? Hell no, I don't want him showing up here. If the bible has taught us one thing it's that your god is a brutal violent SOB with a real penchant for killing anyone who doesn't conform to the smallest of details.

Quote:My viewpoint on this is that the Bible teaches free will, and that we have a choice to follow and believe in God or not.

No the bible clearly does not teach that. If you don't choose to worship your god, you face eternal torment in a place he admittedly prepared for you. That is not free will by any stretch of the imagination.

Quote:I believe that if God appeared to everyone then he would be contradicting himself making him less than perfect and not God.

How pray-tell would god be contradicting himself??? How does revealing one's self to any group of people make them less perfect or less of a deity?? That is a HUGE non sequitur. (I won't even get into the fact that your god contradicts himself constantly in that bible of yours)

Quote:Sure, we would still have the choice to follow him but knowing him would be forced amongst all people rather than being our choice.

How does KNOWING someone have anything to do with justifying whether or not to FOLLOW said person?!??! One has NOTHING to do with the other. NOTHING!
I know George W. Bush is real, and I choose not to support him. That doesn't make him any more or less legitimate as an American president. What exactly are you talking about?????????
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Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 26, 2011 at 4:42 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by DeistPaladin - October 26, 2011 at 4:51 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2011 at 4:52 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by reverendjeremiah - October 26, 2011 at 6:20 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Ace Otana - October 26, 2011 at 6:27 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Doubting Thomas - October 26, 2011 at 6:33 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Cinjin - October 26, 2011 at 8:20 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 26, 2011 at 9:29 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Cinjin - October 27, 2011 at 2:52 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Mister Agenda - October 27, 2011 at 12:36 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 26, 2011 at 10:28 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by TheDarkestOfAngels - October 26, 2011 at 6:39 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by justthetruth - November 5, 2011 at 3:22 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Erinome - November 5, 2011 at 3:32 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by ElDinero - November 5, 2011 at 12:29 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by frankiej - November 5, 2011 at 12:33 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Darwinian - November 5, 2011 at 1:23 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Blam! - November 5, 2011 at 4:32 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Joe Bloe - November 7, 2011 at 8:02 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Mister Agenda - November 7, 2011 at 7:41 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - October 26, 2011 at 7:12 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by padraic - October 26, 2011 at 7:14 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 26, 2011 at 7:53 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2011 at 7:27 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by fr0d0 - October 26, 2011 at 8:00 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2011 at 8:02 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - October 26, 2011 at 8:12 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2011 at 8:15 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2011 at 8:23 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Jackalope - October 26, 2011 at 9:24 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by padraic - October 26, 2011 at 10:46 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 26, 2011 at 11:18 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Erinome - October 27, 2011 at 5:46 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by toro - October 27, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Norfolk And Chance - November 12, 2011 at 9:23 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 26, 2011 at 11:23 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by ElDinero - October 27, 2011 at 4:41 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by 5thHorseman - October 27, 2011 at 4:44 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Zen Badger - October 27, 2011 at 9:16 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Doubting Thomas - October 27, 2011 at 10:33 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by JollyForr - October 27, 2011 at 10:54 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - October 27, 2011 at 11:57 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by downbeatplumb - October 27, 2011 at 12:20 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - October 28, 2011 at 12:01 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Cinjin - October 28, 2011 at 12:10 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Doubting Thomas - October 27, 2011 at 12:23 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by downbeatplumb - October 27, 2011 at 12:26 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - October 28, 2011 at 12:26 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Jackalope - October 28, 2011 at 3:43 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 1, 2011 at 3:10 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by kılıç_mehmet - October 28, 2011 at 4:34 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by padraic - October 28, 2011 at 7:32 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by kılıç_mehmet - October 30, 2011 at 10:29 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Mister Agenda - October 28, 2011 at 3:56 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 29, 2011 at 1:03 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Cinjin - October 29, 2011 at 1:46 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 29, 2011 at 2:24 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Blam! - October 29, 2011 at 10:00 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - October 30, 2011 at 4:31 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by downbeatplumb - October 30, 2011 at 5:28 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by ElDinero - October 30, 2011 at 8:08 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - November 7, 2011 at 10:36 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Joe Bloe - October 30, 2011 at 8:26 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Mister Agenda - November 1, 2011 at 2:50 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by ElDinero - October 29, 2011 at 8:23 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Joe Bloe - October 29, 2011 at 9:07 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 29, 2011 at 9:31 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - October 30, 2011 at 10:15 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Blam! - November 1, 2011 at 10:51 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by justthetruth - November 5, 2011 at 3:02 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Erinome - November 5, 2011 at 3:16 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Cinjin - November 5, 2011 at 1:39 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 5, 2011 at 1:45 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by LastPoet - November 5, 2011 at 3:18 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Cinjin - November 5, 2011 at 3:32 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 5, 2011 at 4:22 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by 5thHorseman - November 5, 2011 at 4:02 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by padraic - November 5, 2011 at 4:17 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by DeistPaladin - November 5, 2011 at 4:34 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 5, 2011 at 4:35 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Darwinian - November 5, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Blam! - November 5, 2011 at 4:49 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by 5thHorseman - November 5, 2011 at 4:48 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 5, 2011 at 5:09 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by DeistPaladin - November 5, 2011 at 5:21 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Blam! - November 5, 2011 at 5:27 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 7, 2011 at 2:38 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 7, 2011 at 10:47 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by SeekerOfTruth - November 7, 2011 at 11:22 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Mister Agenda - November 8, 2011 at 1:05 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by justthetruth - November 8, 2011 at 1:29 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by HeyItsZeus - November 8, 2011 at 1:41 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by ElDinero - November 8, 2011 at 2:34 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - November 8, 2011 at 1:23 am
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by 5thHorseman - November 8, 2011 at 1:57 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Tiberius - November 8, 2011 at 3:00 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by ElDinero - November 8, 2011 at 3:06 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Joe Bloe - November 8, 2011 at 3:33 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 8, 2011 at 4:47 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by ElDinero - November 8, 2011 at 4:53 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 8, 2011 at 10:08 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Mister Agenda - November 11, 2011 at 2:37 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - November 11, 2011 at 2:54 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 12, 2011 at 10:31 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by J.D. - November 19, 2011 at 4:40 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by fr0d0 - November 19, 2011 at 6:25 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Norfolk And Chance - November 20, 2011 at 1:44 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 19, 2011 at 6:53 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by The Grand Nudger - November 20, 2011 at 12:28 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by fr0d0 - November 20, 2011 at 2:59 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Norfolk And Chance - November 20, 2011 at 5:22 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Epimethean - November 20, 2011 at 4:05 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by fr0d0 - November 20, 2011 at 4:39 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by downbeatplumb - November 20, 2011 at 5:18 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Epimethean - November 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm
RE: Christian Looking For Debate - by Minimalist - November 20, 2011 at 6:41 pm

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