(October 26, 2011 at 9:30 pm)Rhythm Wrote: There's a third option Iatia. Our definitions for things such as "free will" are insufficient due to lack of evidence/knowledge, leading to problems of thought where none exist in actuality. A bit like not knowing algebra and then concluding that there is some problem inherent with algebra due to our own ignorance.
Sorry, a 4th option, rather.
I do not agree with all your points (as you, mine), but seldom do I disagree. This time. Yep.
The chemical reactions in the body create thought. How can we have any control? To have true control, the mind and thoughts must be outside the chemical reactions. This is where the problem comes into play. Where is that mind? I understand that we have a certain lack of knowledge, but the fact remains, either we are controlled by our bodies or there is some external force that can control some (and if some, then all) biochemical functions of the body. There must be some process that is not a result of the biochemical physiology of thought, but rather the 'cause'.
Personally, I believe that all reality, all that exists, is in my mind, which is contained within a singularity. i.e., nothing exists but awareness.
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-- Homer Simpson
God has no place within these walls, just as facts have no place within organized religion.
-- Superintendent Chalmers
Science is like a blabbermouth who ruins a movie by telling you how it ends. There are some things we don't want to know. Important things.
-- Ned Flanders
Once something's been approved by the government, it's no longer immoral.
-- The Rev Lovejoy