RE: Is there free will in heaven?
October 27, 2011 at 6:51 am
(This post was last modified: October 27, 2011 at 6:57 am by lucent.)
(October 27, 2011 at 6:33 am)aleialoura Wrote: I suggest you all convert to my religion. When you die you get sent to this 5 Star Hotel in the sky. You can get a massage from an asian hooker, order beer and hot wings or whatever. There is a never ending supply of pot when you open the drawer. Its on the beach, every woman is a virgin, every man is hung like a mule, every channel has something that will interest you, there are roller coasters, hot air balloon rides, horse stables, race cars, porn, pizza, boomerang throwing, face painting, kitty cats and bunny rabbits, everyone has superpowers, and every day is christmas.... without all that pesky, divisive, christ/judgement shit.
Or you can go to Judea Christian heaven where you will lose the part of you that made you you. The thrill of life will turn into the vapid disconnect from life and you'll be free to do whatever you want except actually live.
That's exactly the point I just made. You equate living with a constant stream of empty pleasures that are ultimately meaningless. You equate life to a thrill ride which needs to be constantly entertaining you for you to be happy. See, it's all about you.
(October 27, 2011 at 6:50 am)ElDinero Wrote: I certainly don't ascribe anything to fate, because I don't believe in it. Don't tell me what I do.
This is why it's a paradox. If I'm to be reunited with my lost loved ones, I want them exactly as I remember them. I don't want them to have changed, I liked them before, including their faults. You want there to be millions of vacant, smiling drones, and I tell you I believe that's nauseating. I value my friends for who they are - real people with strengths and weaknesses. Luckily, we have no reason to believe your shitty lobotomised heaven exists.
So you want your friends to experience the same kind of unhappiness and dissatisfactions they had on Earth? You're not a very good friend if that's what you want for them.
If you think Heaven will be boring, you don't have any imagination. The creative power that made this Universe isn't going to be sitting there idle. You have no idea of the wonderous things God can do:
1 Corinthians 2:9
But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”—
This life is just a pale shadow of the the things to come.