(June 30, 2020 at 10:45 am)WinterHold Wrote:(June 30, 2020 at 10:13 am)Mister Agenda Wrote: Stating something is not post-hoc does not make it not post-hoc. Presenting an English translation of the Quran published before 1929 that translated the verb as expanding would make it not post-hoc.
But I just did provide you with a quotation from an ancient Tafseer (interpretation) book of the Quran.
I think you are ignoring the date the author of the book was born: 1214
That's roughly about 700 years before 1929.
Links; again:
https://islamweb.net/ar/library/index.ph...50&ID=4682
This is from the book of Al-Qurtubi who was born in 1214
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Qurtubi
I should also note that the multi-verse was discussed briefly according to the interpretation -which is 700 years before Hubble made his theory-.
How do you know the author(s) of the Quran knew what he was writing? How did you know he wasnt guessing? Giving you the benefit of doubt that al-Qurtubi knew what the author of the Quran meant and not guessing of course.
So a guy some 7-800y ago had an interpretation, a rare interpretation, (obviously many people didnt share his view in hisory), that may (or may not, since the universe isnt mentioned anywhere in the text, and no its not *obvious*, and the expansion of spacetime wasnt mentiononed too, just the *expansion of heaven[s]).
The only impressive thing about this is your ability to shoehorn current knowledge to ancient writings.
You still forgot to answer this one: What if new scientific data is going to suggest the universe is not expanding. Is the Quran wrong?
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