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The Origins of the Universe
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The Origins of the Universe
The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of 'smoke' (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition). This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology. Scientists now can observe new stars forming out of the remnants of that 'smoke'. The illuminating stars we see at night were, just as was the whole universe, in that 'smoke' material. God said in the Quran:
Then He turned to the heavens when it was smoke...
[Noble Quran 41:11]
Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same 'smoke' we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous 'smoke', they formed and separated from each other. God said in the Quran:
Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?..[Noble Quran 21:30]
Professor Alfred Kroner is one of the world's well-known geologists. He is a Professor of the Department of Geosciences, University of Mainz, Mainz, Germany. He said, "Thinking where Muhammad came from .. I think it is almost impossible that he could have known about things like the common origin of the universe, because scientists have only found out within the last few years with very complicated and advance technological methods that this is the case." (From 'This is the Truth' [video]). Also he said, "Somebody who did not know something about nuclear physics fourteen hundred years ago could not, I think, be in a position to find out from his own mind, for instance, that the earth and the heavens had the same origin."
Look closer to the heaven surrounding the earth. We call it the 'sky'. Notice the clouds? What are they?
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
I'd be more impressed had the prophet mentioned turtles . . .
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
A dense, gaseous cloud is not smoke. A raincloud is not smoke. Muhammed knew fuck all about physics. He was a barely literate semi-savage with delusion of grandeur.

Professor Kroner has repeatedly said that he has been quote-mined on this. He manifestly does NOT think that Muhammed had special impossible knowledge about the universe.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

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The fact that you need to put the word smoke in parentheses should tell you that what the people wrote in the book wasn't accurate. If you don't know the difference between smoke and clouds, go retake physical science. Or get out of whatever heavily congested city you live in, as soon as possible.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason...
http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/

Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50

A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh.
http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html

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RE: The Origins of the Universe
(January 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm)king krish Wrote: The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of 'smoke' (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition).
Go even farther back, the universe wasn't even "smoke".
It was a microscopic point of 'everything'.... matter/energy, space, and time.
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
Smoke is a colloidal suspension of combustion product particles in air.
The stuff that the materials of the early universe condensed from was a plasma which didn't have atoms because it was too hot.

Q: What is the similarity between these two states?
A: You don't understand either of them.

Now if the Koran had mentioned something about the distribution of the cosmic microwave background anisotropy I'd have been impressed.
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat? Huh
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Or even Rule 34 . . .
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RE: The Origins of the Universe
(January 9, 2015 at 6:36 pm)king krish Wrote: The science of modern cosmology, observational and theoretical, clearly indicates that, at one point in time, the whole universe was nothing but a cloud of 'smoke' (i.e. an opaque highly dense and hot gaseous composition). This is one of the undisputed principles of standard modern cosmology.
Not true.
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(January 9, 2015 at 8:37 pm)JuliaL Wrote: Now if the Koran had mentioned something about the distribution of the cosmic microwave background anisotropy I'd have been impressed.
Give it time, it will, I still won't be impressed.
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(January 9, 2015 at 6:55 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: A dense, gaseous cloud is not smoke. A raincloud is not smoke. Muhammed knew fuck all about physics. He was a barely literate semi-savage with delusion of grandeur.

He was Joseph Smith 1200 years before the fraud spoke to his moron angel. Mohammed crawled into a cave and claimed to have been visited by the angel Gabriel, which admittedly sounded a little better than Moroni.
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