(July 14, 2020 at 7:01 am)Belacqua Wrote:(July 14, 2020 at 6:40 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: I think anyone's goodness is necessarily in spite of their religion.
This is because you associate a religion with its worst manifestations. Islam with hand-chopping, Christianity with anti-gay belief.
For some reason you don't associate any religion with its best aspects -- for example, loving one's neighbor or devoting oneself to unselfish goodness.
All religions have both sides, and the fact that you see the bad as more intrinsic than the good tells us more about you than about the religion.
On the contrary, I applaud the positive aspects of religion, which is why you never hear me whinge about things like ‘cafeteria Catholics’ - I approve of that approach.
But do you really think that if Ms. Omar were to lose her faith, she’d suddenly abandon the positive tenets of her religion? Would she stop caring about poor people, for example? The notion that people are ‘good’ only because their religion tells them to be so doesn’t hold up.
‘Good people will do good things and bad people will do bad things. But to get a good person to do bad things, THAT takes a religion.’ - Boru Forgets Who Said That.
Boru
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