RE: Are there other paradoxes analogous to the so-called "Paradox of Hedonism"?
July 17, 2020 at 3:58 am
(This post was last modified: July 17, 2020 at 4:03 am by Porcupine.)
@The Grand Nudger
Your appear to miss the point. I am not talking about literal paradoxes. I am talking about so-called paradoxes that are analogous to the so-called paradox of hedonism.
If you take issue with the word 'paradox' then just substitute another word or words that you deem to be more appropriate. The whole point is that I'm asking if there are other things analogous to such a thing.
So, I'm not saying that pragmatism is paradoxical in the literal sense. And "the paradox of" may indeed be a misnomer. Hence why I said so-called paradox both in my thread title and my OP.
The point is that in the case of pragmatism it would qualify as analogous to the case of hedonism if trying to be useful leads to less usefulness.
Why? Because this is analogous to trying to find pleasure leading to less pleasure.
You missed the point in the case of consequentialism as well. I agree that consequentialism is affirmed. It makes sense in theory. I'd even go further and say it's true. The point is that the analogy would apply if trying to practice the theory leads to more negative consequences than not trying to practice the theory.
I hope it's clear that this completely 100% misses the point.
Your appear to miss the point. I am not talking about literal paradoxes. I am talking about so-called paradoxes that are analogous to the so-called paradox of hedonism.
If you take issue with the word 'paradox' then just substitute another word or words that you deem to be more appropriate. The whole point is that I'm asking if there are other things analogous to such a thing.
So, I'm not saying that pragmatism is paradoxical in the literal sense. And "the paradox of" may indeed be a misnomer. Hence why I said so-called paradox both in my thread title and my OP.
The point is that in the case of pragmatism it would qualify as analogous to the case of hedonism if trying to be useful leads to less usefulness.
Why? Because this is analogous to trying to find pleasure leading to less pleasure.
You missed the point in the case of consequentialism as well. I agree that consequentialism is affirmed. It makes sense in theory. I'd even go further and say it's true. The point is that the analogy would apply if trying to practice the theory leads to more negative consequences than not trying to practice the theory.
(July 16, 2020 at 9:45 pm)The Grand Nudger Wrote: What you're discussing are problems of agency and competency, not paradoxes.
I hope it's clear that this completely 100% misses the point.
"Zen … does not confuse spirituality with thinking about God while one is peeling potatoes. Zen spirituality is just to peel the potatoes." - Alan Watts
