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Blue Lives Don't Exist

Gawdzilla Sama Offline

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RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist

August 25, 2020 at 11:52 am

(August 25, 2020 at 11:46 am)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(August 25, 2020 at 11:05 am)onlinebiker Wrote: I use sarcasm because it shows the flip side -

You say I assume the best of the cops - but that is the same thinking that got us "Not voting for Hillary is a vote for Trump".

I do NOT assume the best of cops. Cops are just as capable of fuckery as any other group of people.

I simply state that we do not have enough information in this case to make an informed judgement -as is usually the case for this sort of thing.

Oh, horseshit. Every single time this sort of thing comes up on the forum, you presumptively assume the cops are in the right, while excoriating people who assume the cops are in the wrong. It’s like everyone’s crystal ball is cracked but yours.

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Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 12, 2020 at 10:29 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 12, 2020 at 10:37 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Duty - August 12, 2020 at 10:57 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 12, 2020 at 8:56 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by ignoramus - August 12, 2020 at 9:57 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 12, 2020 at 10:01 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Nay_Sayer - August 13, 2020 at 2:06 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by ignoramus - August 12, 2020 at 10:58 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by no one - August 12, 2020 at 11:15 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 23, 2020 at 9:41 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 23, 2020 at 11:51 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 23, 2020 at 1:00 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 23, 2020 at 4:17 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 23, 2020 at 4:21 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 23, 2020 at 4:31 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 23, 2020 at 6:27 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by arewethereyet - August 23, 2020 at 7:19 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 23, 2020 at 11:56 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 23, 2020 at 1:27 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Rhizomorph13 - August 23, 2020 at 2:30 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 23, 2020 at 3:38 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 23, 2020 at 4:14 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 23, 2020 at 4:37 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 23, 2020 at 6:40 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 23, 2020 at 11:08 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 24, 2020 at 9:55 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 23, 2020 at 7:57 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by arewethereyet - August 23, 2020 at 9:04 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 23, 2020 at 9:16 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Athene - August 24, 2020 at 2:52 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 23, 2020 at 9:15 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 23, 2020 at 10:35 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 23, 2020 at 10:37 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - August 24, 2020 at 7:07 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 24, 2020 at 4:24 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 24, 2020 at 10:28 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Grandizer - August 24, 2020 at 12:15 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 24, 2020 at 1:35 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 24, 2020 at 12:40 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by arewethereyet - August 24, 2020 at 1:04 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 24, 2020 at 4:36 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Duty - August 24, 2020 at 12:57 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 24, 2020 at 2:07 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 24, 2020 at 3:15 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Lek - August 24, 2020 at 8:19 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 24, 2020 at 8:22 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 24, 2020 at 8:33 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 24, 2020 at 8:36 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 24, 2020 at 8:41 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 24, 2020 at 8:45 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 24, 2020 at 9:03 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 24, 2020 at 9:05 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Rhizomorph13 - August 24, 2020 at 8:48 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2020 at 4:33 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 25, 2020 at 6:49 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 6:55 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2020 at 7:36 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 8:05 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Duty - August 25, 2020 at 8:11 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 8:19 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Duty - August 25, 2020 at 8:28 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 8:21 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 8:31 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 8:42 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 8:46 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 8:47 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 9:19 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 10:11 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 10:20 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 10:57 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 11:05 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 11:46 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 11:52 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 11:56 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 11:57 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 11:58 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 12:02 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 12:25 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 12:25 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 12:30 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 12:11 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Duty - August 25, 2020 at 12:14 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 9:20 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 9:26 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 9:31 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 9:36 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 9:38 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 9:43 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 9:45 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 9:49 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 9:51 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 10:41 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 9:54 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 9:55 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 10:00 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 10:03 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 10:07 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 10:10 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 10:14 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 10:23 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 10:25 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 10:29 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 10:34 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 25, 2020 at 10:36 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 25, 2020 at 10:44 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 25, 2020 at 12:26 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 12:32 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 25, 2020 at 12:35 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 25, 2020 at 12:59 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 25, 2020 at 3:17 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2020 at 12:31 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Duty - August 25, 2020 at 1:04 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - August 25, 2020 at 1:23 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2020 at 12:42 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - August 25, 2020 at 1:08 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 25, 2020 at 3:31 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Fake Messiah - August 26, 2020 at 9:10 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 26, 2020 at 9:19 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Grandizer - August 26, 2020 at 9:59 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 26, 2020 at 10:10 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Grandizer - August 27, 2020 at 9:21 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 27, 2020 at 9:34 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Grandizer - August 27, 2020 at 9:54 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 27, 2020 at 10:01 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 26, 2020 at 10:06 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 26, 2020 at 10:25 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 26, 2020 at 11:06 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 27, 2020 at 8:17 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 27, 2020 at 9:36 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 27, 2020 at 9:45 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Mister Agenda - August 27, 2020 at 9:44 am

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RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 27, 2020 at 1:39 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - August 27, 2020 at 10:33 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Mister Agenda - August 28, 2020 at 8:15 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 28, 2020 at 8:43 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Mister Agenda - August 31, 2020 at 11:51 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Angrboda - September 1, 2020 at 11:04 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 30, 2020 at 9:03 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 30, 2020 at 9:32 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - August 31, 2020 at 9:40 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 31, 2020 at 11:01 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Sal - August 31, 2020 at 12:40 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - August 31, 2020 at 1:36 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 31, 2020 at 3:29 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by arewethereyet - August 31, 2020 at 6:43 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 31, 2020 at 7:03 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by arewethereyet - August 31, 2020 at 9:50 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 31, 2020 at 10:46 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by arewethereyet - August 31, 2020 at 11:21 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - August 31, 2020 at 11:43 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - August 31, 2020 at 9:01 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by no one - August 31, 2020 at 4:27 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - August 31, 2020 at 11:12 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 1, 2020 at 12:58 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 1, 2020 at 1:03 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 1, 2020 at 1:20 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 1, 2020 at 3:41 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 2, 2020 at 7:11 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 5, 2020 at 9:34 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 5, 2020 at 9:45 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Duty - September 13, 2020 at 10:38 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 13, 2020 at 11:58 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 13, 2020 at 12:28 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 13, 2020 at 1:05 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 13, 2020 at 3:22 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 13, 2020 at 4:25 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 13, 2020 at 4:37 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - September 13, 2020 at 7:34 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 13, 2020 at 10:29 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 13, 2020 at 7:47 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 13, 2020 at 9:42 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 13, 2020 at 10:35 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 13, 2020 at 11:23 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 14, 2020 at 1:56 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 14, 2020 at 2:04 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2020 at 4:59 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 14, 2020 at 10:08 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - September 14, 2020 at 10:27 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Sal - September 14, 2020 at 2:35 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 14, 2020 at 10:12 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2020 at 10:34 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 14, 2020 at 10:42 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2020 at 10:44 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 14, 2020 at 1:15 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 14, 2020 at 10:59 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2020 at 11:56 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 14, 2020 at 9:01 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - September 15, 2020 at 10:14 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - September 14, 2020 at 12:48 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 14, 2020 at 12:53 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 14, 2020 at 12:59 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 14, 2020 at 1:09 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Anomalocaris - September 14, 2020 at 1:50 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 14, 2020 at 1:28 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 14, 2020 at 1:42 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 14, 2020 at 3:25 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2020 at 3:34 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 14, 2020 at 7:46 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2020 at 8:08 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 14, 2020 at 8:45 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 14, 2020 at 9:07 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2020 at 9:50 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 15, 2020 at 10:31 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 11:12 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Irreligious Atheist - September 15, 2020 at 1:20 pm

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RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 15, 2020 at 9:34 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 24, 2020 at 9:03 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 9:00 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 27, 2020 at 9:05 am

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RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 27, 2020 at 9:15 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 9:30 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 27, 2020 at 9:35 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 9:37 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 27, 2020 at 12:06 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 27, 2020 at 9:39 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 9:42 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 27, 2020 at 10:00 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 10:01 am

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RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 10:06 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 27, 2020 at 10:45 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 10:57 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Sal - September 27, 2020 at 11:03 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by onlinebiker - September 27, 2020 at 11:27 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - September 27, 2020 at 11:38 am

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 27, 2020 at 6:21 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 27, 2020 at 6:40 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 27, 2020 at 6:44 pm

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RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 27, 2020 at 6:54 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Gawdzilla Sama - September 27, 2020 at 6:59 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by The Architect Of Fate - September 27, 2020 at 7:52 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - October 9, 2020 at 9:18 pm

RE: Blue Lives Don't Exist - by Silver - October 17, 2020 at 9:08 pm

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