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Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing
(August 27, 2020 at 8:09 am)WinterHold Wrote: So as the ISIS militants and Osama bin Laden, but you never call them insane. You call them "terrorists" and never use the mental illness card to justify their acts, like you did to justify the act of this white "totally sane" terrorist.
I suppose that we could compare apples to apples and see which is the bigger nut?

For OBL, the stated grievances were.....

-support of israel
-american immorality
-sanctions against iraq
-military presence in suadi arabia

this guy........?

-great replacement.

Their respective aims, OBL

-to commit the united states to a war of financial attrition.
-to prevent the united states from achieving global domination.

This guy

-rahowa.

Both sought to employ terror in order to enact social or political change, and in that respect both are terrorists.  OBL cited grievances in reality and engaged in a plan that had some credible means of achieving his desired end - and it worked.  This guy cited a grievance with reality and engaged in a plan with no credible means of achieving his desired end, which..ofc...it didn't.

We could lean in on stupid or insane, but there's no reason to choose, and it's probably a combo of both.  OBL and his merry men, on the other hand, are rational and competent actors.

Ultimately, though, terrorism takes all kinds - and there are a fair few dumb and insane people that keep it chugging along.  




(August 27, 2020 at 11:29 am)WinterHold Wrote: I wish if there was a list for the non-Islamic terrorist attacks since WW1.
There are, but why stop there?  

Quote:There is always another name for the terrorist attacks by non-Muslims; sometimes it's called "tactical bombing", sometimes it's called "collateral damage", but never called "terrorism".

tactical bombing - bombing at targets of immediate military value.
collateral damage - the unintended result of a military operation.
terrorism - the intentional use of terror by non-state actors.

Quote:It would be interesting, but non-Muslims rarely assign terrorism to crimes commit by their own.
This is absurdly false.  The great american satan, for example, insists that domestic terrorism is a greater threat than any fto - and will actively track down american terrorists...and their families...here and abroad.  

Quote:Since when the rightist white-supremacist movement is not considered a large group ?
Also, ISIS enthusiasts practiced solo crimes, yet it was immediately counted as "terrorism" without question, even though they weren't really with ISIS; just enthusiasts.
This guy plead guilty to terrorism charges.  There was never any question as to whether or not he was a domestic terrorist. Whether someone is a terrorist, or has engaged in an act of terrorism, isn't determined by whether they're an official member of any club. We have guys like that here in the us, yall qaeda. FBI is concerned. Isn't it interesting how the ummah and the wests terrorists tend to come from qualitatively equivalent demographics? Wonder what could be going on there.
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RE: Christchurch mosque shootings: the heartbreaking hearing - by The Grand Nudger - August 27, 2020 at 12:18 pm

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