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Brahma and Abraham
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RE: Brahma and Abraham
(September 15, 2020 at 7:22 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Doesn't have to be deliberate, in whatever novel sense of being deliberate you have in mind, Boru.  Syncretism isn't a conspiracy, lol.  It's a uniform human behavior.

The ghost dance religion in n. america was modeled on the christian religion - but, surprise, it existed before they heard of christ as well.  

Enjoy

Quote:Anthropologist James Mooney conducted an interview with Wilson prior to 1892. Mooney confirmed that his message matched that given to his fellow Indians.[2] This study compared letters between tribes. According to Mooney, Wilson's letter said he stood before God in heaven and had seen many of his ancestors engaged in their favorite pastimes, and that God showed Wilson a beautiful land filled with wild game and instructed him to return home to tell his people that they must love each other and not fight. He also stated that Jesus was being reincarnated on earth in 1892, that the people must work, not steal or lie, and that they must not engage in the old practices of war or the traditional self-mutilation practices connected with mourning the dead. He said that if his people abided by these rules, they would be united with their friends and family in the other world, and in God's presence, there would be no sickness, disease, or old age.[8]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghost_Dance

(we'll never run out of examples)

Now... let's run the cherrypicking explanation on that one.  There was alot of other stuff in it, most of it was native belief - but this particular cherry wouldn't be there to pick, unless the christian influence was part of the pie.

Well, to model something means to use an example to construct something, so it’s pretty clear that it has to be deliberate.

And the Wiki article says that, even being generous, the Ghost Dance dates from no earlier that the mid 19th century, by which time Christians had already been in the Americas for a few centuries. Do you really find it plausible that the natives had not heard of Christ in all that time? But once they’d heard of Christ, they deliberately incorporated that particular cherry.

In any event, it’s rather weak to compare the levels of interaction between European Christians and native Americans with that between the early Hebrews and the Hindus.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Brahma and Abraham - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2020 at 10:06 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 14, 2020 at 10:41 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Fake Messiah - September 14, 2020 at 11:56 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 12:38 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 5:07 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 6:22 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 15, 2020 at 6:36 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 6:54 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 15, 2020 at 6:59 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 7:09 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 15, 2020 at 7:16 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 7:19 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Belacqua - September 15, 2020 at 7:26 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 7:08 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Angrboda - September 18, 2020 at 9:01 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 18, 2020 at 10:10 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 7:22 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 15, 2020 at 7:31 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 7:27 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 7:48 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Brian37 - September 15, 2020 at 8:18 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 8:28 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 8:38 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 8:46 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 9:13 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Ranjr - September 15, 2020 at 8:56 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 10:10 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 10:34 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 11:00 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 15, 2020 at 11:01 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2020 at 11:05 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Drich - September 17, 2020 at 1:05 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 17, 2020 at 2:58 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2020 at 5:04 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 18, 2020 at 1:16 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2020 at 10:53 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 18, 2020 at 1:42 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 19, 2020 at 7:02 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 19, 2020 at 3:58 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 20, 2020 at 7:23 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - September 20, 2020 at 7:29 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 20, 2020 at 5:06 pm
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 20, 2020 at 7:48 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by Grandizer - September 21, 2020 at 3:59 am
RE: Brahma and Abraham - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2020 at 5:39 am

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