(September 14, 2020 at 9:17 pm)Eleven Wrote:you guys kill me.. if god is proven empirically, then in your mind he can not be god. what will be on display to you will be labeled an alien or transdimensional being in your eyes, and then you will find reason then like now not to worship what you can identify.(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: what if in your world and theological views you are on the wrong side of history?
Aside from the fact that I am not wrong concerning my understanding of god's non-existence, I will attempt to treat the question as a hypothetical. If someday in my lifetime god's existence is proven empirically, then I would be able to easily accept that I had been wrong. That does not mean, however, that the god in question would still be worthy of acknowledgment or love.
(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: How could you not know?
Quote:If I was to be judged by a god, first he would have to answer to me.who are you? if a cop arrests you for murder and you are processed and found guilty would a judge be obliged to first be scrutinized by you? now think about that because a judge only has the power and authority we give him.. God's power and authority far exceed that.
Quote: After all, a world that objectively operates as though there is no creator can easily and understandably be viewed as a world where god does not exist.you world or world view is not accurate of how the real or rest of the world works.. atheist accounts for 4%. that means 4% out of 7 billion see this world as being godless.
(September 14, 2020 at 3:01 pm)Drich Wrote: did you not seriously ever objectively look at your beliefs?
Absolutely, and that is why I am an atheist.
[/quote] so many upon true critical exploration find they can not be atheist.
Quote:And furthermore, the questions you have asked are questions that have been repeatedly asked before. We keep giving our same answers, which keep being ignored by the theists who simply cannot fathom the reality of a world without god's existence. The prideful ones, it seems, are the theists who see a god where there is not one and then demand that others see that same god.i find the opposite to be true.