[Serious] G-20 leaders, don’t forget the women’s rights advocates rotting in Saudi prisons

[Deesse23]

Neither is religious extremism / fanaticism in general. Misogyny is only one aspect. Although foreign governments more often than not are supporting such groups (like the Saud family, Bin Laden as long as he was fighting the Russians), its not "the west" who creates those extremists. They are already there. People like Atlass are well advised to consider why this phenomenon is so widespread in the Arab world, and not just start with "its *the west* and now im going to look for reasons why its *the west*".

I agree that misogyny is one aspect of a much, MUCH wider issue, but the topic was specifically about women imprisoned and tortured for the unconscionable crime of wanting to be treated like human beings.

I can Muslims the source of their problems, but they won't like the answer. 

Boru

Absolutely.

I seriously doubt that any "westerner" went to Saudi Arabia and told them to treat their women like shit. Someone maybe has supported such an idiot.
But that misogynist ass was already there. How comes that people think its ok to treat women like shit, that its actually requested to treat them like shit, that a god, no less, is ordering this and "no, we treat them like men" is no option?: 

Its religion based on ancient texts that more often than not are ambiguous  at best. Its the lack of a proper method to figure out ethics. "God said so, because *pulls ancient text" certainly isnt such a method.

People like Atlass will never understand why the point is not if their interpretation of the text is *correct* or not, but using a mere text "god said so" is bollocks, regadless of what their god allegedly said.